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Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop
« Reply #90 on: October 17, 2024, 10:49:07 AM »
....

159 - Presumably saddle interior?

A31 Power Windows
A49 Custom Seat Belts Front
A50 Bucket Seats
B30 Carpets
B54 Custom Pad Cushion - Dash pad?
B93 ?
D31 ?
D?3 - Looks like 33?
D55 Console Shift
M33 Auto Trans

Anybody know the mystery codes?

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Checked my 1966 Assembly manual to see what correlates.

Listing your 1965 codes and description for 1966. xxx means that code isn't used in 1966

A31 Power Windows
A49 xxx (1966 Custom Seat Belts = A39)
A50 xxx (1966 Bucket seats= A51)
B30 xxx (1966 Carpet Savers Only= B32)
B54 Custom Padded Cushions, Front= B50, Rear= B52
B93 Door Edge Guards, Installed by Fisher
D31 xxx
D33 Remote Control Outside RR View Mirror
D55 Full Length Console
M33 Transmission ST 300

I would expect a T86 code for Back Up Lights for a 1965, they were standard in 1966, so no code was needed.

Maybe you're missing the rest of the sheet that would show additional options such as Tilt Wheel (N33), Power Steering (N40), Wheels/Deluxe Wheel Covers (P05/P01), Sonomatic Radio (U63). BTW, these are 1966 codes.

Sweet! Filling in the blanks..

D33
Our car for sure came with the remote mirror,
A body-specific option for sure.

B93
Don't know what door edge guards would look like,
Presumably a strip at the back edge of the door,
Or maybe a rub strip in the middle?
No evidence of either, but we have had a re-spray.

My car has power steering now, and it looks factory installed,
But the column was changed so anything is possible.

There were deluxe wheel covers found.
Not that they couldn't have been added,
But their condition seemed to indicate otherwise.

Backup lights were found. Very old and beaten - likely OG.

Car also has the radio. Looks original. Same age as the rest of the dash.

There may be more of my sheet rotten away and lost to time.
Interesting how it was alphabetical as it goes along.
Mine goes up into M33 before it's rotten away,
So, those higher letters above 'M' could be missing.

There are things on our car that aren't on the 'Cheat Sheet'.
Stuff in the lower letters like F35 HD Frame and F40 HD Suspension.
Lower than M, so should be there.
Those aren't body specific.
If power steering and power brakes used the same body stamping then Fischer might not have cared,
And not included them on the cheat sheet?

Notice Jim's Cheat Sheet doesn't include things all GSs had - like HD battery and HD radiator.

Very interesting. Love this stuff!

Could see this being a handy thing they had taped to the side of the car during interior assembly.
A quick reference for the people along the later portion of the line,
To make sure interior parts got installed correctly.

So many options during those days,
Keeping track must have been quite the issue.




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Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop
« Reply #91 on: October 19, 2024, 11:17:13 AM »
Thanks to Loren i got the console apart.
Grateful for the help.
Might have been one to pry things all mangled.
Luckily, another guy like my younger self was never in there before!  :icon_tongue:

Here's hoping the chromer can preserve all of those cool texture details on top of that console.
Going to take skill for sure.
So many times, they buff them away...

Love the date stamp under there.  :glasses9:

Shifter knob goes to the chromer,
But how to remove the plastic center?

Might as well do some prying!  :angel4:
It can be glued if something breaks, right?
Check this out...
Could it be that Mother Buick was the one to have glued this in before?
I'm thinking so.
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Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop
« Reply #92 on: October 20, 2024, 07:16:20 AM »
Do they all have a date stamp there?
Jim
North Mankato, MN

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Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop
« Reply #93 on: October 20, 2024, 12:11:36 PM »

Check this out...
Could it be that Mother Buick was the one to have glued this in before?
I'm thinking so.

  It looks exactly like one of that I have. Same looking glue.

  Loren
65 GS hardtop BCA Senior
 65 GS thin pillar coupe
 65 Skylark coupe v-6
 65 GS hardtop restoration project
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Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop
« Reply #94 on: October 29, 2024, 01:42:23 PM »
Heard back from SMS!
They sent samples.

This is where a color-blind guy has to really trust others.  :icon_salut:

Fresh piece of carpet was cut from under the console where it got no sun.
Washing it up good, it's pretty obvious which one.
E for the win. SMS calls that 'Dark Saddle'.

As for the headliner
The light color B is it for sure.
Is that color what they call 'Fawn'?
A and C are both 'Saddle', right?

The SMS invoice lists the color as H-715 'Dove' tier?
So, there was a Saddle interior with a Dove headliner?
While anything is possible 60 years later,
It would -really- surprise me if the headliner wasn't original to the car.


SMS says it will take two weeks for us to get our carpet and headliner...
We send in the old sun visors to get re-covered in that same Fawn (Dove?) tier grain vinyl.
And that will take a month..... But they will be exactly like originals......
Supposedly....

-Very- cautiously optimistic......

The story is that they're very responsive and helpful right up until they run your card.



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Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop
« Reply #95 on: October 31, 2024, 09:10:53 AM »
Looks like a good match for both the headliner and the carpet. SMS is really proud of the carpet price but then they do have to make a mark up over the ACC carpet that they are just reselling to a customer. lol ACC is the main manufacturer of auto carpets. So many sources for them.

  Loren
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 65 GS thin pillar coupe
 65 Skylark coupe v-6
 65 GS hardtop restoration project
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Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop
« Reply #96 on: October 31, 2024, 10:33:55 AM »
Ah, dag... Live and learn, i guess.

SMS has such the reputation for being the best quality,
I figured their carpets were part of that.

Maybe it's just 'sweet lemons' when the stuff is so hard to get!  :icon_biggrin:

Having them do the sun visors to match seemed the only choice to get them right.
Scary to put them in a box and send them possibly onto oblivion!


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Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop
« Reply #97 on: November 22, 2024, 10:32:25 AM »
Time to get caught up a bit..

Been getting things rounded up for when the big teardown day comes.
Some pieces, they aren't available unless someone digs deep into their stash.

Here, Loren did us a solid by providing a tach and couple other things.
Rare big-block steering coupler, GS emblem, plus the round Buick emblem.
Chrome shop would remove those nice rib details during re-chrome.
Best to just find a nice original.

Loren tipped us off to an NOS plastic emblem insert thanks to Kurt,
Also found here on this fine forum!
Check out those bright colors.
 :icon_biggrin:

So,
Yeah,
Little detail stuff to be sure,
But all part of the process!

Much thanks gentlemen. Takes a village.
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Thanks for the update! (Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop)
« Reply #98 on: November 22, 2024, 02:21:44 PM »
Thanks for the update!  Indeed, you need to acquire all the pieces needed to put the car back together.  No time like the present!   :thumbsup:

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Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop
« Reply #99 on: November 22, 2024, 11:01:27 PM »
You are making good progress!
Jim
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Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop
« Reply #100 on: November 24, 2024, 02:30:35 PM »
Thanks, gents.
I keep saying it, but we'll have some real progress here soon.

Car pushed around to the work area.
Buddy's friend had to help as it's getting muddy!

Parts car delivered to the house here.

Will do some teardown once i make room for the stuff to land!


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Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop
« Reply #101 on: November 24, 2024, 02:41:16 PM »
Carpets from SMS (PPI) look good.

Same with headliner material.
Crazy how light the stuff once was!

Sending the sun visors to SMS for a re-do.
At over $500 they better be nice.  :angryfire:

Now my anal anality is festering!
What to do about the little shiny corner pieces on the sun visors?
Can't have them all rusty crusty next to new fawn tier vinyl!  :tard:

Anybody know if/who makes those little parts?
Is it possible that anyone else cares?

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Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop
« Reply #103 on: November 25, 2024, 09:44:10 AM »
Nice!
Don't know how you do it.
I'd looked and looked!
Thanks again Loren.
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Re: Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop
« Reply #104 on: November 25, 2024, 10:05:08 AM »
You are welcome.
 
 Parts are getting so much more difficult to find. Google has become a friend. lol

  Loren
65 GS hardtop BCA Senior
 65 GS thin pillar coupe
 65 Skylark coupe v-6
 65 GS hardtop restoration project
 65 Sport Wagon
 70 GS 455 htp / original engine
 94 Roadmaster wagon
 96 Roadmaster wagon- parts car
 63 Riviera
 Shuman 65 Gran Sport convertible, current caretaker

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