Buddy's Beauty - 65GS Hardtop

[Clatter]

Don't know how nerdy you guys are for stuff like this,
But I'm nerdier than nerdy for these things!
How cool is this? 

Tried to flatten it out a bit - pretty fragile.
Pic with and without flash,
Plus firewall tag.

How to translate these codes, again?

 

[Clatter]

That looks like a door spring.
Nice find with the options paper.

 Now to answer your question about taking the console out.
You have to remove the plate that the shift lever slides in. Start by removing the knob. It simply unthreads from the shaft. Put the lever in the middle position and look at the back edge of the plate where the angled area is. There is a round retainer button. Push it in, it has a spring behind it. Push it in enough to lift the back of the shift plate up at an angle. Pull the plate back some and out it comes. There are two large head screws you now have access to. Remove those and the ones in the storage box area. The console should be ready to come out.

  Loren

Big thanks my man.

A past version of me would have pried at things until they were never the same again! 

Got to get that console free to remove a tach ring... 

 

[WkillGS]

Take a look in the Assembly Manual for those codes.
I only have a 1966 manual....the first section is 'General Information', there's a 'Buick Sales Code/Accessory Options' list there of the codes. The codes are called 'UPC Group'.

[elagache]

Thanks for sharing and taking all of us along on your restoration adventure!! 

Edouard

[cwmcobra]

Take a look in the Assembly Manual for those codes.
I only have a 1966 manual....the first section is 'General Information', there's a 'Buick Sales Code/Accessory Options' list there of the codes. The codes are called 'UPC Group'.

I'm not finding that section in the 65 Assembly Manual. Had high hopes but not finding it.

Chuck

[Jim]

Hi ,here would be a few of the codes

[Clatter]

Excellent... SO stoked. 

Very happy to share this build with those that can appreciate.
Most ordinary citizens wonder why anyone would mess with an old car.
Some even think it's because i can't afford a new one! 

So,
Across the top: 742 44437 2565

The only thing i recognize is the middle - 44437 is the car's ID number.
Anybody know what the 742 or 2565 is?

159 - Presumably saddle interior?

A31 Power Windows
A49 Custom Seat Belts Front
A50 Bucket Seats
B30 Carpets
B54 Custom Pad Cushion - Dash pad?
B93 ?
D31 ?
D?3 - Looks like 33?
D55 Console Shift
M33 Auto Trans

Anybody know the mystery codes?

Nothing we couldn't already tell from carchaeology. 
What's original to the car matches all of these codes.
There might have been more at the bottom where the paper rotted away.

Like has been said, these were 'Fischer Codes' and pertain to body fittings, but not necessarily mechanical stuff,
So, say, a posi rear end or power brakes might not be found here, correct?

The big thing we were hoping to figure out was if the car had a tilt column or not.
The column having been replaced makes me think tilt because they're more likely to have issues, right?
But,
We might have seen code N33 on this paper, maybe?
Anybody know?
It might have been a body thing...
Think we can safely say the car never had tilt?

Buddy will pop the big $$ for rebuilt tilt off of ebay if we 'have to',
But it's not an option we really want.
Hoping to validate that we shouldn't have tilt.
Humor me!
 

[Jim]

N33 tilt wheel

[Clatter]

N33 tilt wheel

That code has been seen written on a piece of paper tucked under a seat?
Anybody ever seen it there?

Or is it only found in the real documentation?

Thats my question.

Sorry if I wasnt clear.   

[Jim]

This was under our seat.jim

[Loren At 65GS]

Here is a Fremont plant Broadcast sheet that was found in a '65 GS.

Loren

[Mark Ascher]

My Gran Sport was built within a week of this car. Body number is about 380 units after it.
I found and have the same hand written papers with codes.

[WkillGS]

....

159 - Presumably saddle interior?

A31 Power Windows
A49 Custom Seat Belts Front
A50 Bucket Seats
B30 Carpets
B54 Custom Pad Cushion - Dash pad?
B93 ?
D31 ?
D?3 - Looks like 33?
D55 Console Shift
M33 Auto Trans

Anybody know the mystery codes?

....

Checked my 1966 Assembly manual to see what correlates.

Listing your 1965 codes and description for 1966. xxx means that code isn't used in 1966

A31 Power Windows
A49 xxx (1966 Custom Seat Belts = A39)
A50 xxx (1966 Bucket seats= A51)
B30 xxx (1966 Carpet Savers Only= B32)
B54 Custom Padded Cushions, Front= B50, Rear= B52
B93 Door Edge Guards, Installed by Fisher
D31 xxx
D33 Remote Control Outside RR View Mirror
D55 Full Length Console
M33 Transmission ST 300

I would expect a T86 code for Back Up Lights for a 1965, they were standard in 1966, so no code was needed.

Maybe you're missing the rest of the sheet that would show additional options such as Tilt Wheel (N33), Power Steering (N40), Wheels/Deluxe Wheel Covers (P05/P01), Sonomatic Radio (U63). BTW, these are 1966 codes.

[Clatter]

This was under our seat.jim

Excellent.
Yours must be a Fremont car?
Looks just like mine.
The same person's handwriting it seems.

Here's the translation,
Your car was so equipped?

A31 Power Windows
A49 Custom Seat Belts Front
A50 Bucket Seats
B30 Carpets
B54 Custom Pad Cushion - Dash pad?
C27 Soft Trim Roof Black(?)
C60 Air Conditioning
D55 Console Shift
M33 Auto Trans
PO5 Chrome Plated Wheels - Does this mean Road Wheels?
W15 Gran Sport? Huh? 

Did your car come with a tilt wheel?

Still trying to figure out if this "Fischer Body Cheat Sheet" had everything,
Or if it was just for body-specific stuff.

If it was just body-related options,
The wheels being listed doesn't make sense.
Unless the people doing the body had to include a different spare or something...?

[Clatter]

My Gran Sport was built within a week of this car. Body number is about 380 units after it.
I found and have the same hand written papers with codes.

Pics or it didn't happen!