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Re: Paint codes on rear axle
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2009, 10:49:44 AM »
Mark, Walt, Loren and Chris,

I found some literature about the paint codes on the rear axles.  Thought I?d share this information here. (Just click on the attachment to view the PDF file which contains two pages.)

The first page is for 1965 Buicks.  The second page is for 1965 Oldsmobiles.  In the first chart you will see an ? LG ? code for 3.08 44 GS AUTO.  This is what I found stamped on the underside of my Diff. Carrier.  On the Buick page, it states that it was supposed to be stamped in yellow on the left brake drum.  In contrast, on the Oldsmobile page, the MFG. AXLE CODE was to be stamped on the carrier, as it was on my GS. The letters were 1 ? inches high, stamped with yellow paint.

In the smaller chart on the Buick page, it has the COLOR CODES for the various ratios and whether posi or not.  A 3.08 non posi should have white markings.  I wonder if that is the purpose of the two short white bars on my carrier?  If it were a posi, would it have one white and one orange?  Mark, did you see any white paint markings?  I just see the one orange paint mark on your carrier. Maybe indicating posi fluid added and quality checked?  BTW, you did a fantastic job on recreating those paint markings. 

What Walt said about the other orange marking that he found makes a lot of sense.  Especially since they were also found on the fill plug.  This could indicate that gear fluid was added. I also found similar marking on the drive shaft and u-joints. They did need to be greased.  Like Loren said, these were quality control markings for inspections and completion of tasks, like adding proper fluids and grease.  You still see these same markings and procedures on today?s assembly lines.

I have found no reference to the two green bands so far.  Or the pink rings on the inside axle shafts. Or the yellow paint dab on the end of the axle hubs. You?d almost think that heavy duty GS axles would need some markings to differentiate themselves from the standard Skylark and Special axles. Loren, have you checked closely on your California Skylark axles yet?  It would be great if you found any markings for comparison.

Just a lot of speculation on my part here. Thanks for letting me spew. Some people have called me anal. I think that I just have a touch of ?65 GS obsession. There is no cure.

John
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Re: Paint codes on rear axle
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2009, 02:16:52 PM »
John,
As of yet , I have not been under the car.  When I've had time to maybe do something, it's been pretty cold.

Loren
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Re: Paint codes on rear axle
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2009, 11:31:31 AM »
John,

I'll get under some time this weekend to take a few snaps of the rear axle markings.
I started my new job this week, so I'm trying to "adapt" so to speak.

Mark
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Re: Paint codes on rear axle
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2009, 03:16:09 PM »
Great pic John, thanks for sharing.
I'll have to post some pics of 4 speed tranny codes. It looks like they used a stencil then spray painted the letters....you can even see some overspray.

Mark, glad to hear you found something. Hope it works well for you.
Walt K
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66 GS Silver Mist/black 401 4 spd
66 GS Flame Red/black 401 5 spd
66 GS Saddle Mist/black 401 L76 auto
66 Special Flame Red/black 300 5 spd
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Re: Paint codes on rear axle
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2009, 03:53:00 PM »
Mark,

I am also glad to hear that you are employed again.

Loren
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Re: Paint codes on rear axle
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2009, 04:52:19 PM »
Walt/Loren,

Thanks for the kind words. It actually feels good to be part of the rat race again.

Mark
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Re: Paint codes on rear axle
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2009, 06:26:28 PM »
Walt/Loren,

Thanks for the kind words. It actually feels good to be part of the rat race again.

Mark


Mark, I know the feeling. I started a new thread here:
http://65gs.com/board/index.php/topic,119.0.html
Walt K
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66 GS Silver Mist/black 401 4 spd
66 GS Flame Red/black 401 5 spd
66 GS Saddle Mist/black 401 L76 auto
66 Special Flame Red/black 300 5 spd
65 GS vert Verde Green/ Saddle buckets 401 4 spd
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Re: Paint codes on rear axle
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2009, 07:11:18 PM »
Great pic John, thanks for sharing.
I'll have to post some pics of 4 speed tranny codes. It looks like they used a stencil then spray painted the letters....you can even see some overspray.



Thanks Walt,

I hope that you were able to read the two PDF pages that I attached to my last post. It indicated that the paint codes are stamped in yellow.  I did not notice any overspray, so in this case I think it was indeed stamped.  This is what I did to reproduce the " LG":   Using tracing paper, I copied it and made a foam rubber stamp pad.  Painted the letters on the rubber pad with yellow paint and then stamped it in the same position.  The " L " was a little crooked from the " G " so I did likewise.
Later, I will post the factory markings that I found on the driveshaft in another thread.

John
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Re: Paint codes on rear axle
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2009, 08:45:25 PM »
Loren, I didn't see the attachments? I've been trying to copy all my pics to the gallery, so they don't get lost in my photobucket account. Hopefully, you guys will save some copies for posterity!

My '66 assembly manual states that the lower A-arms were stamped with ID letters as well...did you see any?

My 65 GS is pretty rusty on  the underside. (originally from Bethlehem, Pa)
I have 2 66 GS's from Calif....one is pretty crappy, the other is pretty good...I'm working on it now, just haven't gotten to the rear yet.

Years ago, I had a co-worker that called me anal...I had to look it up! Now I consider that a complement!....tho I feel 'perfectionist' is a better term! ;D
Walt K
Eastern Pa

66 GS Astro Blue/blue 425 auto
66 GS Silver Mist/black 401 4 spd
66 GS Flame Red/black 401 5 spd
66 GS Saddle Mist/black 401 L76 auto
66 Special Flame Red/black 300 5 spd
65 GS vert Verde Green/ Saddle buckets 401 4 spd
79 Turbo Regal