Author Topic: Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms  (Read 254 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline 35chevcoupe

  • Crazy about Buick!
  • *****
  • Posts: 1448
Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms
« on: October 20, 2021, 09:52:06 PM »
I was getting ready to do some more sand blasting today seen and these letters on top of the rear upper trailing arms . Looks like they were painted on with a stencil or a stamp .
Anyone ever seen this before ? and why they would mark them ?
John Evenson

1930 model A 4 dr sedan
35 chev coupe 2 dr Master Deluxe suicide dr,s
55 chev belair wagon 4dr
59 Buick Invicta 2 dr hd top
65 Buick GS 2 dr ht 3 spd
65 Buick GS Convertible 3 spd
1970 Cuda 440-6
71 Buick GS
84 chev 3/4 ton p/u 6.2 diesel
Yeah there's more
There all projects

Offline Weldar

  • Crazy about Buick!
  • *****
  • Posts: 271
Re: Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2021, 08:08:13 AM »
John,

That is very interesting. As i disassembled my car i found several markings and even a big thumb print in some caulking on the interior. However, I don't recall anything on my trailing arms (KAN built). I am just fascinated by the these things and always wonder who the person was and what their life was like......kinda makes you happy that we are keeping some of these old cars going.

Dwaine
65 Skylark GS HT Auto - Under restoration
65 Skylark GS HT 4sp - Driver
2 x 65 Skylarks for parts

"If you stay ready, you don't have to get ready" - Les K.
"The closer to the wellhead the better" - Oilfield Oldtimer

Offline Loren At 65GS

  • Administrator
  • Crazy about Buick!
  • *****
  • Posts: 3268
  • Senior Administrator
    • 65 GS dot com
Re: Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2021, 09:14:49 AM »
The rear upper control arm for the Special and a Gran Sport are different part numbers.
Part number for the Special and Skylark is GR.5.382 P/N 1371373. If I understand the parts book description correctly, that is for sedan and hardtop and wagon with standard suspension.
The part number for models 4427-37-67 with heavy duty front and rear suspension is Gr. 5.382 P/N 1373774.

Good catch there John, I suspect that the stenciled markings denoted the upper control arm specific to a Gran Sport and was for production assembly reference.

 Loren
65 GS hardtop BCA Senior
 65 GS thin pillar coupe
 65 Skylark coupe v-6
 65 GS hardtop restoration project
 65 Sport Wagon
 70 GS 455 htp / original engine
 94 Roadmaster wagon
 96 Roadmaster wagon- parts car
 63 Riviera

 BCA 14371
 BCA 65 Gran Sport Division

Offline 35chevcoupe

  • Crazy about Buick!
  • *****
  • Posts: 1448
Re: Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2021, 09:24:34 AM »
Yeah Dwaine its interesting all the little id markings that were originally on these cars . The only thing I can come up with is that it was possibly some kind of cheat sheet that the assembly line workers used to know which parts went on which car . Example maybe a Lesabre took a different trailing arm than a skylark and that was there way to distinguish the difference at a quick glance . Who knows , but it sure makes me wonder what they're  method was .
The odd thing is is why I've only seen that on that one arm , that's the first one I've seen with that on it .

LOL , Loren we must have been typing at the same time .
What do thing the difference would be in them ?
« Last Edit: October 21, 2021, 09:27:37 AM by 35chevcoupe »
John Evenson

1930 model A 4 dr sedan
35 chev coupe 2 dr Master Deluxe suicide dr,s
55 chev belair wagon 4dr
59 Buick Invicta 2 dr hd top
65 Buick GS 2 dr ht 3 spd
65 Buick GS Convertible 3 spd
1970 Cuda 440-6
71 Buick GS
84 chev 3/4 ton p/u 6.2 diesel
Yeah there's more
There all projects

Offline Loren At 65GS

  • Administrator
  • Crazy about Buick!
  • *****
  • Posts: 3268
  • Senior Administrator
    • 65 GS dot com
Re: Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2021, 09:40:09 AM »
John and other 65 enthusiasts,

 I discovered the Part Number difference while researching upper and lower control arms for my Sportwagon.
I don't know if the difference is actually a difference in the arm itself or the bushings. I guess a micrometer to gage metal thickness may suggest something if there is a difference discovered between a known standard suspension part and one from a known heavy duty suspension.
 My part number research also revealed that Skylark and LeSabre shared the same control arms. That was a surprise.

  Loren

 
65 GS hardtop BCA Senior
 65 GS thin pillar coupe
 65 Skylark coupe v-6
 65 GS hardtop restoration project
 65 Sport Wagon
 70 GS 455 htp / original engine
 94 Roadmaster wagon
 96 Roadmaster wagon- parts car
 63 Riviera

 BCA 14371
 BCA 65 Gran Sport Division

Offline WkillGS

  • Administrator
  • Crazy about Buick!
  • *****
  • Posts: 1996
Re: Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2021, 09:44:29 AM »
Does one of you have an assembly manual?
I have a 1966 manual.... AI used on std models, AE used on GS Auto trans Less HD, and AD used on Reg HD and wagons.
They use different bushings, therefor have different ID marks. I have no idea if the metal stamping is different.
Walt K
Eastern Pa

66 GS Astro Blue/blue 425 auto
66 GS Silver Mist/black 401 4 spd
66 GS Flame Red/black 401 5 spd
66 GS Saddle Mist/black 401 L76 auto
66 Special Flame Red/black 300 5 spd
65 GS vert Verde Green/ Saddle buckets 401 4 spd
79 Turbo Regal

Offline WkillGS

  • Administrator
  • Crazy about Buick!
  • *****
  • Posts: 1996
Re: Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2021, 09:47:02 AM »
....
The part number for models 4427-37-67 with heavy duty front and rear suspension is Gr. 5.382 P/N 1373774.
....
 Loren

Also used in 1966 wagons/GS, stamped AD
1373775 is the '66 AE
1373776 is the 66 AI
Walt K
Eastern Pa

66 GS Astro Blue/blue 425 auto
66 GS Silver Mist/black 401 4 spd
66 GS Flame Red/black 401 5 spd
66 GS Saddle Mist/black 401 L76 auto
66 Special Flame Red/black 300 5 spd
65 GS vert Verde Green/ Saddle buckets 401 4 spd
79 Turbo Regal

Offline WkillGS

  • Administrator
  • Crazy about Buick!
  • *****
  • Posts: 1996
Re: Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2021, 09:55:25 AM »
Anyone remember the April 1966 Hot Rod article 'Blueprinting Buicks for Action'?
They drove 4x 6 penny nails into the rear bushings to stiffen them up.
http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/members/AardvarkPublisherAttachments/9990352584806/1966-04_HR_Blueprinting_NH_Buicks_1-6.pdf
Walt K
Eastern Pa

66 GS Astro Blue/blue 425 auto
66 GS Silver Mist/black 401 4 spd
66 GS Flame Red/black 401 5 spd
66 GS Saddle Mist/black 401 L76 auto
66 Special Flame Red/black 300 5 spd
65 GS vert Verde Green/ Saddle buckets 401 4 spd
79 Turbo Regal

Offline Loren At 65GS

  • Administrator
  • Crazy about Buick!
  • *****
  • Posts: 3268
  • Senior Administrator
    • 65 GS dot com
Re: Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2021, 09:59:48 AM »
Some good information there Walt.
I recall the nail thing, but don't recall where ai had seen it.

  Loren
65 GS hardtop BCA Senior
 65 GS thin pillar coupe
 65 Skylark coupe v-6
 65 GS hardtop restoration project
 65 Sport Wagon
 70 GS 455 htp / original engine
 94 Roadmaster wagon
 96 Roadmaster wagon- parts car
 63 Riviera

 BCA 14371
 BCA 65 Gran Sport Division

Offline GS66

  • Crazy about Buick!
  • *****
  • Posts: 2311
Re: Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2021, 11:10:53 AM »
Interesting stuff! There are still neat things going on today on assembly lines.
Jim
North Mankato, MN

65 Gran Sport HT auto
66 Gran Sport Conv. 4 speed
66 Gran Sport Conv auto
66 Gran Sport Post auto
66 Gran Sport HT auto

Offline 35chevcoupe

  • Crazy about Buick!
  • *****
  • Posts: 1448
Re: Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2021, 11:37:46 AM »
What I find interesting is this is the only control arm I've found that was marked . Maybe the rest just didn't last the test of time  :dontknow:
Its not really that important i guess but kinda fun discovering what they did back in the day .
The ? is now do I make a stencil and put it back on there ?  :laughing7:
John Evenson

1930 model A 4 dr sedan
35 chev coupe 2 dr Master Deluxe suicide dr,s
55 chev belair wagon 4dr
59 Buick Invicta 2 dr hd top
65 Buick GS 2 dr ht 3 spd
65 Buick GS Convertible 3 spd
1970 Cuda 440-6
71 Buick GS
84 chev 3/4 ton p/u 6.2 diesel
Yeah there's more
There all projects

Offline 35chevcoupe

  • Crazy about Buick!
  • *****
  • Posts: 1448
Re: Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2021, 11:55:14 AM »
Anyone remember the April 1966 Hot Rod article 'Blueprinting Buicks for Action'?
They drove 4x 6 penny nails into the rear bushings to stiffen them up.
http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/members/AardvarkPublisherAttachments/9990352584806/1966-04_HR_Blueprinting_NH_Buicks_1-6.pdf


Walt , it figures it came from a racer ! They can come up with some pretty ingenious things .
I used to do some of that crazy stuff . Some called it cheating but as the GREAT Smoky Yunick called it ( working with in the gray areas )
One quick little trick i did back about 10 years ago was on my dirt modified , if we had done any lightening to the engine block we had to hang 50 lbs in front of the bell housing , so I shaped a couple 2X4s the same shape as the lead that we use to use and hung them there .
It took about 7 years for anyone to find out , my driver didn't even know !   :laughing7:
John Evenson

1930 model A 4 dr sedan
35 chev coupe 2 dr Master Deluxe suicide dr,s
55 chev belair wagon 4dr
59 Buick Invicta 2 dr hd top
65 Buick GS 2 dr ht 3 spd
65 Buick GS Convertible 3 spd
1970 Cuda 440-6
71 Buick GS
84 chev 3/4 ton p/u 6.2 diesel
Yeah there's more
There all projects

Offline cwmcobra

  • Crazy about Buick!
  • *****
  • Posts: 2369
  • The Verde Howitzer
    • Ginky Weeds Restoration Project
Re: Id letters on rear end upper trailing arms
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2021, 03:57:12 PM »
John,

Confirming from the 65 Skylark Assembly Manual also, that's the correct code for HD suspension.  Pictures attached.

Chuck
Steve Shuman's 1965 Skylark GS Convertible: Flame Red/401/4 BBL/Automatic - BCA Archival Preservation
1965 Skylark GS Convertible: Verde Green/401/2x4 BBL/4-speed - AACA First Grand National - AACA National Award - BHA Outstanding GS - BCA Senior Gold
1965 Shelby Cobra Replica

BCA 48497
AACA 91100