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Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« on: November 18, 2019, 10:19:11 PM »
Beginning the journey to restore this 65 GS 3 speed.
Don
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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2019, 10:32:34 PM »
Thanks to everyone's help here, I've been able to decode everything but the "star". Built 3rd week of April in the Flint plant. V8 coupe, of course, with blue interior, 2 tone Astro Blue Poly with a white top. All tinted glass, 2 tone paint, 3 speed trans,backup lights, belted reveal molding, remote mirror, GS trim, door edge guards and deluxe retractor seat belts. I always wondered if the "star" was for star shaped headliner since people have speculated that the star is for some special interior code. This vehicle has the Tier style headliner or what's left of it. So the star doesn't makes sense. More to come as I make progress.
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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2019, 02:05:08 AM »
Hey  :headbang: another rare 3 speed  car on the road to redemption! I have one to!A post car One of 405 so equipped! Also yours is one of 604 hardtops built with a 3 speed and one of 4881 hardtops built at Flint! Nice with the tinted glass and belt reveal!
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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2019, 11:10:57 PM »
Very excited about the originality of this car. Still sporting the original AFB.
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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2019, 11:14:28 PM »
Anyone know where I can get the correct barrel nuts for the emblem? Not sure why they were removed. The emblem was in the glovebox.
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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2019, 02:55:33 AM »
That’s great on the carb as they are one year and hard to find! March of 65 date code! The square barrel clips
Might have to come from another glove box door!

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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2019, 07:12:20 AM »
Where are you and the car located?
'64 Skylark 2dr ht 4 speed, 300-4
'65 GS ht, 4 speed,2-4s,AC,PS,PB,PW,Pseat,Tilt
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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2019, 09:24:01 AM »
I will have to look but I think a couple of my cars have the star on the cowl tag too. Good luck with the project!
Jim
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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2019, 01:52:24 AM »
I found some barrel clips in an old spare glove box door I had. I'll have to carefully bend the tabs out to engage again. Was hoping to find a source for new. Also i read somewhere that the star was for a deluxe interior. That's makes me guess the star designates star headliner. Not sure what else it could be.
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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2019, 10:23:16 AM »
I believe the star is only on Flint built cars.
Is it on all Flint tags?
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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2019, 02:52:53 PM »
I think mine came from KCMO... Bill

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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2019, 06:51:15 PM »
I believe the star is only on Flint built cars.
Is it on all Flint tags?

Apparently not, Walt.  I have two 65 GS's built in Flint.  One was a parts car and had no star on the trim plate.  The other is the Steve Shuman car and it does have a star on the tag (bottom picture).  I don't think it can designate a star headliner because the Shuman car is a convertible.

Any other theories?  Conspiracy or other??   :laughing7:

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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2019, 07:12:21 PM »
Under the stars???   Bill
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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2019, 11:50:28 PM »
Star could indicate time period, do early cars have these as opposed to late cars? Could be used to signify a production change! Maybe a vendor change in a component! Like for instance if you had to use a different paint supplier? Would be interesting if they had that info on something like this at Sloan or in gm archives!
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Re: Saving a 65 GS 3 speed
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2019, 03:41:56 PM »
It's amazing after all these years the star * is still a mystery, not just for Buick guys but all other GM division cars. The * is found on all GM products at least through the 60s and 70s.
Because it normally appears on the trim and paint line suggests it has something to do with special paint or trim items.  However after some research this theory does not holdup. I thought the star headliner idea sounded pretty good but that went down in flames.
My suggestion (worth what you will pay for it) the * has nothing to do directly with the vehicle it's found on. It may be part of a GM production monitoring process to identify and track production quality. Almost every component ie: alternator, power steering pump, windshield wiper motor, radio all subcomponents have a QA stamp or tag of some sort.  I suggest the * was installed by Fisher at the start of production to identify the completed vehicle for a QA inspection at the end of production.
Just a thought.  Other thoughts?             
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