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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #765 on: December 03, 2019, 12:46:12 PM »
...Was that even urethane back then? ....

It's originally Butyl tape. Sold by 3M as 'Windo-weld Ribbon Sealer'.
I just use a sharpened putty knife. Likely not the best method, but I had a bad experience using the correct cutter tool with handle.... cracked a nice windshield with that one!

 
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #766 on: December 03, 2019, 01:01:55 PM »
That Blows! At least this is a tempered rear window. About 150.00 for a new one, but this has the delivery dealer sticker on the glass. We'll see how this plays out. For now I have 2 floor panels tacked in and its looking pretty good.  Bill
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Used a Dremel tool to cut holes for outer A/C vents. (Re: 1964 GX 455)
« Reply #767 on: December 03, 2019, 01:41:36 PM »
Dear Bill, Good Dr., Tony, Walt, Jimbo, and mid-60s Buick caregivers,

WOW!!
  What a great collection of advice and generosity!   You guys are great!  :hello2:

AHHGGGGGG... more spot welds!!! Me thinkst Ill repair whats there.
. . . .
I have a really sweet variable speed Dremel oscillating flush trim cutter that this blade will work on.

Probably a mute point, but I used a Dremel tool to cut the holes for the outer A/C vents on my trusty wagon.  Usually car restoration requires more brute force and less precision than a Dremel tool provides.  Still, there can be situations where a delicate and precise touch gets the job done.

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #768 on: December 03, 2019, 03:07:08 PM »
Hey Ed... I use a rotary 1/8 mandrel Dremel when critical stuff needs precision. The Dremel above is an variable speed oscillating blade; great for plunge cutting in wood and plastic. Cutting out those vent holes like you did, it wouldnt handle it. I use 1/4" mandrel air tools and a 1/16" thick cutoff wheel would go through that like butter. Thats what I used for trimming the floor pans. Im in the shop, so pics are later when Im back on the mainframe.

I searched for an hour looking for my 220V extension cord for the welder. Wouldnt ya know, it was right where it was supposed to be; right where I forgot to look. Anyway, I made about 200 spot welds. Some stuff had the chinaman primer on it and there were a few blow outs due to too much gapposis, and of course, less than shiny substrate. Welding likes to be cleany deany.

I'd still give the job a 97 so far; good rhythm and easy to dance to! (Remember American Bandstand??). Tomorrow is the fenderwell fillers, and grind the spot welds flat. Those judges can be a PITA LOL... Then some body filler putty and paint. Then the rear corners. More cutoff wheels.     Bill
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #769 on: December 03, 2019, 04:48:29 PM »
Ahhhh... all done and sitting with some 3X coffee. Pats knee job is next Monday and she gave me carte blanche to spend some time in the shop before she becomes my "charge" for a few weeks.

The very first thing I did this morning was to install the gas tank straps. For the better part (and easiest) they go in from the top and get hooked BEFORE the floor goes in. Otherwise its a lotta swearing and forcing to get them back in. The center section goes in first. The edges are overlap butt welds with a so-so fit. One side has the lip and the other side is flat. The overlap is a tad shy of being flush with the flat side... just saying.

Theres 168 spot weld holes and another 40 or so tacks on the seams. Tomorrow, The wheel house fillers go in and then some finesse welding and grind them all flat. After its done, a fat bead of seam filler spread with a paint brush will fool the judges and look 100% OEM. Its not a show car by any means, but it will have a nice new solid trunk and as an added plus, no fumes migrating off the pipes for carbon monoxide to enter the cabin.

After this stage is done, Ill be on to the very rear trunk floor patches and some fender extension fabbing. This is all starting to move right along. Probably get a handle on the window job somewheres along the line as well. 

Pardon the globular welds! A lot of this was single freehand welding while pushing panels down or otherwise positioning for a good tack. A nice grind and finish they'll look like a million!   Bill



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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #770 on: December 03, 2019, 08:13:11 PM »
  Hi Bill, The tool that I have is the same as the one in the top photo that you posted the other day. .I read the PM you sent to me so I have your address . Just give me a Yes and it will be on it's way to you by the end of the week.

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #771 on: December 05, 2019, 02:38:50 AM »
Looking great! Keep up the work and keep the pictures coming!

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #772 on: December 05, 2019, 04:46:53 AM »
Thanks! Its a labor of love. Just like painting the living room; instant gratification. At 64 y.o. thats how we hafta roll.

So theres probably close to 200 spot welds with the addition of the fender well fillers (FWF's). Yesterday, I probably got 170 ground down and it looks good. That BTW, was standing on tippy toes reaching in as far as I could from the back and side and getting showered with sparks haha. Losing more and more hair everyday ! 

Today, Im gonna take a pillow and my blanky into the trunk (used to fit 2-3 kids at the drive ins') and get comfy with the grinder(s).  Id like to get that done today and spread some seam sealer on (first coat) so it can set up before a second app. No runs, no leaks, no errors. Then get some paint to forestall rust on fresh welds and move on to either rear body work or that rear window. Decisions, decisions!

Actually, I tend to bounce around. Taking a smoke break from grinding, I'll pick up my body work hammers and knock some tin around. Then its back to the grind !   Bill

It doesnt look like much but the grind job is about 4 feet deep (up to the vertical wall for the shelf) and all around the sides and across the back. Each tack takes about 1 to 1-1/2 minutes on average, moving position, hoses, and getting comfy. Thats about 3-4 hours of grinding in sheet metal box. Today is ear plugs!!

 Some require more grinding than others. Im glad the judges said its supposed to look a little "barbaric" from the factory. I hope I can improve on that and at least progress to medieval.

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #773 on: December 05, 2019, 02:26:11 PM »
Did a few touch up welds and ground the heck outa them. Ready for some seam filler tomorrow, I hope!

On to the upper trim on the rear window, whats the trick? Follow the upper edge to the clips and then...   Bill
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Definitely a labor of love!! (Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455)
« Reply #774 on: December 05, 2019, 05:59:34 PM »
Dear Bill and mid-60s Buick restorers, . . . .

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Today, Im gonna take a pillow and my blanky into the trunk (used to fit 2-3 kids at the drive ins') and get comfy with the grinder(s). 
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WOW!!   I would try to say that "you must be goin' about it da' hard way," . . . . except I cannot imagine anything that is even remotely easier!  Definitely give yourself a break between grinding sessions!

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #775 on: December 05, 2019, 06:51:47 PM »
The word for the day is EARPLUGS... keeps the noise down (for nappy time) and also keeps the hot sparks out of the eardrums (painful!). Little freaky with a 20,000 rpm grinder inches from the storeboughts.  :laughing3:

So that part is done. Tomorrow the corner patches and a coat of the seamfiller.

 When asked by Bernie Cooper on the ARTHUR ANDERSON to Earnest McSorley on the EDMUND FITZGERALD by radio, the last response was "We're slipping along like an old shoe; our rails are awash, but we're holding our own".   Bill

So heres the trick answer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63nXHjemRZk
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #776 on: December 06, 2019, 05:58:29 PM »
GOOD EVENING RACE FANS!!! Well it seems like Im off to the races. Two full days left, then Pat gets the knee job Monday at 0900hrs. What a trooper! She said she wont need any baby sitters post op. Hmmm. Ill still hafta get over and visit at least daily, but she also sai9d she expects me to continue on so I dont break my stride. YIKES!

Got the two rear corner floor patches done. Even put a 45* break in the middle to match the floor contour. Sahweet. I also pulled the upper windshield trim off and didnt bust the glass; YET! Clips were a bit smaller than the ones on my '72. Whats up with the weird color too? These are OEM clips. The lip that hooks the trim is really small and actually kinda hard to mannippleate the tool, a light, a screwdriver,wearing gloves. I won that battle LOL...

The top pic shows what the seam filler looked(s) like. Gonna try to replicate a "messy" job.    Bill

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #777 on: December 08, 2019, 12:01:03 PM »
Everyone must be "Half asleep at the wheel" around here. Too much pineapple pizza for Pearl Harbor day perhaps??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMA-kGxjZV0

Ran outa paint yesterday so I went and stocked up. Ive been touching up some smalls with rustoleo Navy Blue, and discovered some Rustoleo Navy Blue Metallic. That may be the color to go with if the makers will toss a gallon my way!    Bill



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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #778 on: December 08, 2019, 03:26:56 PM »
So the trunk floor is painted with 2 coats of Navy Blue Rustoleum. Turned out as good as what the factory provided. Kinda weird, pics with the flash look like sky blue or such. Compare some of the pics side by side with the OEM dark blue. Looks washed out. The paint itself is actually pretty dark.

I was playing with the new metallic stuff. The dust pan, being relatively clean got a coat of the dark navy, then the left side got a cover in the metallic, and finally a cover in clear. Digital pics look funky, but real time the stuff looks beautiful. I kited Rustoleo a letter (email) seeing if the can provide the color in gallons. I tried this with their Cobalt Blue and its by spray cans only. I did some googling and found a million acrylic enamel suppliers at between 59.00 and 79.00 a gallon with a pint (8:1) hardener. Id still block it and clear it. A few white lace panels (60's custom stuff ya know) and the BADLASS will be ready to flash her bloomers LOL...    Bill

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #779 on: December 08, 2019, 03:31:47 PM »
Same pics via flash and it really looks washed out. The last pic has the clear (one coat) on it..   Bill
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