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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #435 on: April 29, 2019, 03:37:27 PM »
What? You never heard of the fearsome Torquesaurus Gus?  :whip2:
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #436 on: April 29, 2019, 05:33:45 PM »
WOW! I was beginning to feel like the red headed step child, and now an outpouring of support! BAMM! The other place across the hall seems to be stuck between 2nd and 3rd gear. A ripe opportunity to throw a rod! I have met some really good guys over there, but almost anyone that contributes to my thred(s) provides more criticism than help. The biggest offender(s) over there have ALL the answers yet can only copy and paste results. Ill admit to C&Ping myself when the situation warrants it as a link. Sometimes I dont feel like typing 12 pages of droll with two fingers. I still dont use the opposed thumbs for typing (!). I learned to type on an IBM Selectric; the one with the ball(s) for different fonts. Even had a modular ribbon cassette with a red and black siamesed ribbon. The "offenders" over there probably get a weekly manicure to go with the spotless white shirts. Hell, I only dress in grunge. Thats my story and I am sticking to it.

I must admit I like the rubber mat thing from Lowes. A bit pricey at 35.00 but I did look at the other stuff on that link. Theres a 2x3 foot job for 11.00 and i can always use some extras. I worked in a coal fired power plant for 30 years and really miss hacking up a chunk of old conveyor belting from the scrap pile. That stuff would be a little to hard on the delicacies of an aluminum radiator anyway. Some one else mentioned using a piece of used serpentine belt, but thats not enough. The Lowes deal looks like a happy medium. Pretty high tech in appearance too.

After work today, I sat and pondered the cooling job. I agree 100% that a simple pad on the lower mount and the upper too will be fine. The bottom is now plenty wide but the top is lacking a bit on the one side as per Walts pics.  Thats where I was considering sectioning the top plate to make it wider. Id rather support the weight on the tanks 100% rather than the core, even tho that is on the top.

I spoke with my Champion Rad. guy today and he's gonna price this unit out for me in a 3 row unit. He concurred with me that I really dont need to go with 4 for the extra $$$.  This will fit the width and the height, and even the thickness. He seemed to think about 160-170.00

https://www.championradiators.com/3-row-Buick-Skylark-radiator-20-1967-1969

Theres that C&P thing again LOL.  After playing with this stuff for almost 55 years, I felt a bit overwhelmed without having a tangible part in my hand. A tape measure is only as good as the person reading it, and the chinaman can not read a tape measure.

I tried to post the instructions mid parse, but the big dummy cant figger that out. Read it below. I did using Wun Fun Tungs' suction thang and got the brakes 90% bled. The hose AND wrench wont fit the bleeder nipple, so I used the bench bleeder tapered nipples into the bleeder which helped. Pat showed up to stomp on the pedal a few times and its now 100% BAMM! It took about 1/3 quart to fill and flush the entire new system until clean fluid came out.

Spent some time on electrical plugs on the front light harness. Got my turn signal plugs from ebay *(Thanks loren for the link), and they look good. I pulled every pin out of every plug and wired brushed them all with a SS toothbrush. S-O-P.  They look like new, with a film of dielectric grease on each. I am almost ready to mount the grill and headlight buckets, but want to get the cooler in place first, just in case of any trimming on the mounts.

Bored yet? NEVER... Pulled the back window trim off to address the leaking rear window. Not news to me, but there is some rot under the trim. Cut all the previous attempts at caulking out down to clean steel. Im not gonna pull the glass for this rodeo; maybe when the patina gets removed next year. The leaks also exacerbated the rusty trunk floor. That'll be a fun project for me. I hope the gas tank is intact. Its bone dry right now. Well maybe a gallon in there. I blew the line back with air and heard a slight gurgle.

I want to thank everyone again for the input! Keep the dialogue rolling. Post pics of your projects. I enjoy offering advice where I can too. I was a breech delivery with a 3/4" combination wrench sideways in my hand. Mom said it was "painful"... Have a great day. Pics after dinner.   Bill

 
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« Reply #437 on: April 29, 2019, 08:29:32 PM »
Another issue thats come up but is no biggy is what to do about an aircleaner? As it sits, the 455 with an Edelhooser on a 1" spacer for a Q-jet manifold, the air horn  is just about even with the fenders. Id prefer a quadrajet 800 but this was a freebie.  I doubt a stocker would fit either.  Whatchyou guys say? I have no compunctions about cutting a hole in the hood with a cowl induction type hood scoop ( I hate that term!) but after all, form follows function. I kinda like the Olds jetstar filters, but height is still an issue.  Bill
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #438 on: April 29, 2019, 08:44:27 PM »
You might be able to just use a 14? setup with a drop base. I had one on one of my cars, maybe it is still out in the parts pile.
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #439 on: April 29, 2019, 08:49:28 PM »
I think a drop base with a skinny element is gonna be the most cost effective route to go. Its a close call!   Bill

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #440 on: April 30, 2019, 06:10:54 PM »
Well... Got the new water cooler ordered today. The cost for Adam is 215.00, so thats getting drop shipped to here with no shipping or sales tax added. Best deal I can get!

Took the rear window trim off yesterday to address some corner leaks. I knew there was some cancer there, as the trunk floor is a gonner.  Some one in the past had attempted more than once to fix the leaks. There was the OEM butyl sealant, then black RTV and some white stuff that was crumbling and looked terrible. Spent two hours picking and cutting all that out. Ill pull the window next year for the paint job. She's staying in 1964 patina till then. Better than 1/2 the trim clips were gone as well.

Mind you, this is only a cursory repair, so its ok for now. Got it shiny clean, brushed some zinc primer in the slot, mixed some fiberglass, and sanded that "ok" then 2 spray coats of rustoleo Navy Blue. Actually the color aint bad. Tomorrow Ill polish the trim on the wheel, and re-seal with polyurethane BLACK. Then its off to the boat for a while to get her ready for a Saturday launch....   Bill

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Needed that sort of air cleaner. (Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455)
« Reply #441 on: May 01, 2019, 03:17:06 PM »
Dear Bill and mid-60s Buick caregivers with limited head clearance,

I think a drop base with a skinny element is gonna be the most cost effective route to go. Its a close call!   Bill


Biquette continues to suffer from that problem.  I have a 1" drop base and a 2-1/2" filter element instead of the normal 3".  I can give you a vehicle listing for the 14" by 2-1/2" filter elements I found.  I've never heard of any filter elements shorter than 2-1/2" - is there such a thing?  :icon_scratch:

Biquette has a problem because she is using a FAST Sportsman EFI setup.  It is about 1" taller than a standard carburetor.  You might have less trouble with your scheme.

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #442 on: May 01, 2019, 07:16:08 PM »
The only OEM unit Ive seen thats close to <2" is off a 1969 dodge w/383. This guy inherited all his F-I-L 's junk and was selling it. A rusty POS, dirty, and laying on a pile of other dodge junk for 120.00++ ???? No way. Id pull out the gas-ax for the hood  before that!
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Big Boy #404 is ALIVE!!!! (Was: 1964 GX 455)
« Reply #443 on: May 03, 2019, 01:57:01 PM »
Dear Bill and 65GS.com railfans,

Okay, a bit off topic but to revisit a discussion earlier this year:

Union Pacific Big Boy #4014 is currently undergoing restoration with the hope of having it running for the 150 anniversary of the golden spike ceremony which connected the transcontinental railroads.  The anniversary is coming up this May 10th!  We'll see if the restoration shops can pull it off.

Today there was a YouTube video showing Union Pacific Big Boy #4014 running some trials under its own steam power:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjoMBKWW0ag

They'd better get a move on.  The anniversary is only 7 days away and the locomotive is still in Cheyenne, Wyoming.  I hope they work out whatever kinks remain so that the locomotive can make it Utah for the anniversary of the completion of the transcontinental railroad.  Lots of people are expecting it to make a show!

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #444 on: May 03, 2019, 10:40:14 PM »
Check out the consist; the 4014, tender (NOW OIL FIRED) with 2 DYNO cars for aux braking, and a SD switcher for aid to power the dyno car(s) and for air. Check the vids from the old days when fired on COAL. YIKES!   ws

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #445 on: May 04, 2019, 11:17:16 AM »
AND THE CROWD ROARED !!!   Bill Meanwhile back to the boat for a 1200hrs launch!

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Congrats! (Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455)
« Reply #446 on: May 04, 2019, 01:30:34 PM »
Dear Bill and 65GS.com faithful,

Thanks for the link to a Big Boy "back in da' day." . . .

AND THE CROWD ROARED !!!

Congratulations!   :thumbsup:  It was quite a struggle, but it looks like this problem is behind you!

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:



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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #447 on: May 04, 2019, 02:09:08 PM »
"Fits like a Trojan (ah, er, Champion) should!"...   Its at rest for now and about a 99% fit on the mounts etc. Actually its in front of me now LOL! 

 But wait, thats not all! Got the boat launched, secured, potable water purged, plugged in and making ice as we speak! Notice no leaves on the trees yet? This is an early start this year! Tomorrow is a haircut and a shave.  I always grow the winter coat when the boat comes outa the water and then clean up my act to play the quintessential yachtsman.

A few bugs to work out then its back to Bertha. I need to hear that girl scream. Hopefully no runs, no leaks, no errors >>>>>>>>Outa the park! 

As Willy admires the new cooler, Pat looks on...                        Bill

 

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #448 on: May 05, 2019, 07:41:42 AM »
Anyone have a "reasonable" source for the engine hood side rubber bumpers? OPGI are like 7.00 each! Thats kinda rich by my standards!   Bill

https://www.opgi.com/skylark/S240895/
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #449 on: May 05, 2019, 10:35:07 AM »
For specific items such as this, it's often best to check CARS first. They're more likely to have the correct part as they are often the ones who initiate the reproduction, and other companies are just resellers of their product. You can check a rubber products manufacturer such as Steele.
Anyway, CARS has them for $3 each (fits 61-75), and Summit Racing also has some for $3 but list them for '67-up?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-1975-Buick-Hood-to-Fender-Bumper-Narrow-HFB610-/182153008715?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0
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