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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #405 on: April 22, 2019, 08:28:28 PM »
I've parted allot of these cars out....64 and 65 and have never seen those in any of the cars.

65 cars have the lower pointed bracket with 2 bolts. 64's had nothing other than a rubber bumper that is at the rear.

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #406 on: April 22, 2019, 08:46:35 PM »
I think thats the best news yet! And I thank you. Sometimes you tend to overthink things, and this was one of them lol. On to bigger and better things... Bill
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #407 on: April 23, 2019, 06:37:16 AM »
So I guess this is another FM put to rest. Maybe these were installed on a heavy duty towing package? Im gonna look at the book again today, but Im pretty sure it was listed as "For all models".  Hope sliding the freshly painted inner fenders isnt going to be too brutal of a job. EXSPURTS??? The alignment up front is at least 90% good right now and hate to lose that!     Bill
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #408 on: April 23, 2019, 07:01:54 AM »
It can be done, maybe have to protect that fresh paint with tape.  My painter called that move "an old Indian trick" which I have not yet mastered. 
He also left the brackets off that hold the inner fender...I had to get those back in there myself. Good luck!
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #409 on: April 23, 2019, 07:13:37 AM »
Are those the smallish two front struts? I need details LOL... Just wondering if they go in from the top or underneath? At least the wheels have never seize on the studs and all the fender bolts holes were tapped clean, bolts wire wheeled and oiled.  Oh the HUMANITY!!!!  I probably short changed myself; shoulda had them bolted on to the feners first. Had to have the core support in position for radiator measurements, which meant hanging fenders, which led to, oh well, you know.  Bill
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #410 on: April 23, 2019, 09:08:19 AM »
From the bottom, got to roll them in there and move into place.  Hardest is tucking in the outer lip and front - kinda has to all happen at once. 
I caved on the 65 and removed the fenders- had a bunch of those little square nuts that had to be welded back in and proper bolts to use instead of the junk my painter used.
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #411 on: April 23, 2019, 01:21:15 PM »
Bill,
If you are looking at the body manual, it is very generic to all of the GM A-body cars for the year.  I would not be surprised that even though it says "all models", it isn't for all models.  My 64 Skylark does not have brackets on the inner fenders that look like the ones in the manual page you posted.  It does have the deflector on the firewall behind the pass side fender well like the one in the picture Chuck posted. 
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"Mud deflectors" (aka Fender Aprons) reproduced. (Re: Secret 1964 GX 455)
« Reply #412 on: April 23, 2019, 01:51:22 PM »
Dear Bill, Chuck, and mid-60s Buick caregivers,

Oh yeah, there are "mud deflectors", but they don't look like that bracket.  They look like the attached picture.


Not much help I suppose, but the "mud deflectors" are reproduced.  They are called Fender Aprons and are available at CARS:

http://www.oldbuickparts.com/product_info.php?products_id=9176

It comes with some hardware and supposedly fits 1964-65 cars.  Biquette's had to be tucked back a bit because otherwise they would be too close to the exhaust headers.  You may or may not have that problem.

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #413 on: April 23, 2019, 03:42:50 PM »
Well, I huffed and I puffed and then tossed in the towel. Had the pass. side wheel off, and alternator  removed and RF of car jacked way up and it was NO-GO. I struggled for a few hours and then pulled the fender off. Hey, all the holes are tapped with cleaned and oiled bolts, right? A half hour later I was putting the fender and inner back on the car. The drivers side was more like 30 minutes, plus an hour to re-align all the stuff, tighten it up, and install the battery tray (6 friggin' bolts on that alone!).

Actually had some time to do BS work on the engine compartment wiring harness and found a relic that still got 1980 juice in it. The tank itself (white plastic) is in shards. Found two white plastic parking lamp/signal plugs that are gonners. The black ones on the bumper are fine. Are these easy to find? Loren??

Taking Pat out to dinner tonight. Mexican. YUMMM. Next week, after Jefferson, I have a junking date on the 65 California 4 door car I posted here some time ago. Im going in with a sawzall and gloves. I want to see the lower core support (V8 w/ A.C.) and maybe a 6 blade fan. Aside from a cooling system and a pump to carb fuel line, this guy is ready to fire !  Bill

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #414 on: April 24, 2019, 12:51:52 PM »
It's not hard to find the plugs here..........I always kept everything and anything.

I have a couple of bins of hardware and other buckets of hardware........

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Windshield washer tank? (Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455)
« Reply #415 on: April 24, 2019, 01:00:38 PM »
Dear Bill and 65GS.com parts hounds,

The tank itself (white plastic) is in shards.


Is this the windshield washer tank?  You can get one from Fusick:

http://www.fusickautomotiveproducts.com/prodinfo.asp?number=WJ6405

You can also get it in black for an extra ten bucks:

http://www.fusickautomotiveproducts.com/prodinfo.asp?number=WJ6405B

Of course you might be able to scrounge one up for yourself, but at least you now know what you are looking for and that the Olds tank is compatible.

Found two white plastic parking lamp/signal plugs that are gonners. The black ones on the bumper are fine. Are these easy to find? Loren??


Can you spot which connectors are shot from the photos on this thread?

http://65gs.com/board/index.php?topic=1090.msg5989#msg5989

That might help us give you some advice.  Some of these connectors are relatively common and can be found at better brick and mortar auto parts stores.

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:

P.S. The 1964 Buicks didn't come with a coolant recovery tank.  Do you want to add one?

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #416 on: April 24, 2019, 01:14:08 PM »
The black plastic bottles are correct for a 64....

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #417 on: April 24, 2019, 03:43:49 PM »
I cant toss anything either. I probably have some of these plugs as take offs, but since Loren sent me a link for a ten pack, I figured get 'em while you still can. These are in black BTW. That white stuff fell apart like bad teeth. My washer bottle remnants are white. Maybe an assembly plant thing?    Bill
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Bottle replaced once? (Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455)
« Reply #418 on: April 25, 2019, 03:59:34 PM »
Dear Brian, Bill, and mid-60s Buick caregivers,

The black plastic bottles are correct for a 64....

My washer bottle remnants are white. Maybe an assembly plant thing?    Bill

Another explanation is that the bottle that came with the car failed and was replaced by a 1965 bottle.

I ended up buying the white tank but really didn't care for the way it looked in the engine bay:



These white tanks will yellow with age and I thought that would really detract from  Biquette's engine bay.  So I just painted it with engine bay paint.  However, since I was doing that I masked off an area so that I could check the level of the fluid:



So that's another possibility that might look cleaner.

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #419 on: April 25, 2019, 08:24:54 PM »
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/des-plaines-1964-buick-wagon/6873321462.html

Does this resemble your dash board Edouard?  Some peculiar differences between this and mine. Im after the radiator!!   Bill
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