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Offline Robert V

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conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« on: May 25, 2018, 12:44:42 PM »
Hello,
I did the 4 speed conversion
1965 skylark  300 motor
Parts from donor car same year Bw T-10 4 speed.

Al went well except upon start up I have a rattle that will disappear if clutch is depressed or if car is put in gear.
Please help find solution.

Thanks,
Robert

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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2018, 11:26:54 PM »
Check the throw out bearing!?

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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2018, 08:38:25 AM »
My first thought also.
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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2018, 09:08:33 AM »
Thanks,
The noise is hollow sounding and seems to be internal transmission case.
When drive train is disengaged no sound.
Rattling (sounds like rock bouncing around moving parts), if clutch released in neutral or any gear.

Gonna pull and bring to shop.

Any recommendations or cost estimate to rebuild 53 year old T-10

Need good shop Long Island New York.
Thanks,
Robert
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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2018, 03:54:19 PM »
Larry Fischer.  D & L transmission.  He is in East Huntington.  He is the best in the country for building 4-speeds.  Has a shop at his house.  Tell him that Brian Stone in NC sent you.   You are fortunate to live close to him.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2018, 03:55:52 PM by Brian »
'64 Skylark 2dr ht 4 speed, 300-4
'65 GS ht, 4 speed,2-4s,AC,PS,PB,PW,Pseat,Tilt
'66 Skylark 2dr ht 300-2 automatic
'78 Yamaha DT 400 2 stroke
'88 Ford F-150 4x4 (used to be 4x2)
'89 Ford F-350 4x4
'03 Honda Accord Coupe V6 6-speed manual (daily driver)

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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2018, 03:58:25 PM »
Thank You
I will call him on Tuesday

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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2018, 09:56:42 PM »
Hello,
The conversion is finished.
The BW T-10 had an internal issue fixed by Larry Fischer (D&L transmissions) Long Island N.Y.
I highly recommend his services.

My 1965 Skylark is now dialed in and is a blast to drive.
The 4 speed conversion was over 20 hours of labor and worth every minute.
I now have a dream car.  Thanks for your assistance.
A few photos  attached.

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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2018, 10:27:38 PM »
Congrats!
What was the problem with the trans?
The 5 speed swap into my '66 Special was the best mod I did to the car. I enjoy driving it so much more than when it had the automatic.
Walt K
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66 GS Astro Blue/blue 425 auto
66 GS Silver Mist/black 401 4 spd
66 GS Flame Red/black 401 5 spd
66 GS Saddle Mist/black 401 L76 auto
66 Special Flame Red/black 300 5 spd
65 GS vert Verde Green/ Saddle buckets 401 4 spd
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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2018, 10:53:21 PM »
3rd gear broken and cluster replaced

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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2018, 07:34:41 AM »
Looks great!  Glad to hear Larry got your trans up and running.  I have an original 65 cig lighter on my workbench if you are interested.
'64 Skylark 2dr ht 4 speed, 300-4
'65 GS ht, 4 speed,2-4s,AC,PS,PB,PW,Pseat,Tilt
'66 Skylark 2dr ht 300-2 automatic
'78 Yamaha DT 400 2 stroke
'88 Ford F-150 4x4 (used to be 4x2)
'89 Ford F-350 4x4
'03 Honda Accord Coupe V6 6-speed manual (daily driver)

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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2018, 03:07:01 PM »
Here are some additional pics after the 4 speed conversion.

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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2018, 03:08:33 PM »
I would love to do this to my car. If you don't mind me asking, what was the total cost ($s for parts, hours for labor) to make this conversion?

Keith
65 Skylark GranSport, Convertible, Burgundy Mist, White Interior, Mostly Original, 70,000 miles

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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2018, 03:27:48 PM »
I did all work, so no labor expense.

All parts total about $2,250.00

Some of the parts were only available 2nd hand.

It took about 20-25 hours labor.

In my opinion it was worth doing, now my 1965 Skylark convertible is my dream car.

Robert

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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2018, 04:04:44 PM »
I would love to do this to my car. If you don't mind me asking, what was the total cost ($s for parts, hours for labor) to make this conversion?

Keith

If you are considering the conversion for your Gran Sport convertible be aware that Roberts car is a 300 V8 and consequently cost a lot less than yours would.

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Re: conversion to 4 speed completed Need assistance
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2018, 04:41:46 PM »
 Keith?from your signature, you have a GS, which has the 401 engine.  4-speed conversion on that is a compleetly different deal than the 300 skylark Robert just did.  Parts much more rare and expensive for GS
'64 Skylark 2dr ht 4 speed, 300-4
'65 GS ht, 4 speed,2-4s,AC,PS,PB,PW,Pseat,Tilt
'66 Skylark 2dr ht 300-2 automatic
'78 Yamaha DT 400 2 stroke
'88 Ford F-150 4x4 (used to be 4x2)
'89 Ford F-350 4x4
'03 Honda Accord Coupe V6 6-speed manual (daily driver)