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Offline Barb69

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Dissecting Dusty
« on: March 24, 2017, 05:47:15 PM »
Here are fresh pictures of Dusty. Since I just found out he has 300 nail head. I feel I need more schooling.  I'm done with the running part of him. I started doing beautification.  I have boxes of small projects. The 3 Rd mirror,  I am scared to put holes on Dusty. Outsource that job to the husband. Trimming for interior, all windows and windshields. Chrome siding  for outside. A brake light for the back windshield.  One major job that I will not do myself is disk brakes. I have them, just need to find a technician  to do it for me.  Pardon the dust on Dusty. I can not bring myself to wash the engine bay.

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Re: Dissecting Dusty
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2017, 07:18:36 PM »
Tiny point of order.

The Buick 300cid (evolved from the 215 aluminum v-8 in 1960) is not a Nailhead.

The Nailhead engines are a different beasty altogether.

The 300 V-8 have "vertical" valve covers and has similar appearance and I think that has led to the continued use of "300 (or even 301) Nailhead. (yours do not have the appearance of being vertical)

I have had three Buicks with the 300 and I like them for the little gusty engines they can be.

It's a fun thing to drive the 300 and the ST300 with switch pitch.


Let me go find some pics of the valve covers.   BRB...





This is the nailhead with valve covers and intake and valley cover removed.
Notice the intake ports are horizontal and the valves are vertical.






This is a 215 V-8, that is pretty close to what the 300 looks like. (I could not find a good pic of a 300 with the valve covers and intake to compare to a nailhead)
The intakes are angled, not horizontal, and the valves are angled, not vertical.


The valve covers on the 300 are a trapezoid cross section, and that gives the illusion that the 300 head is like a nailhead. The nailhead covers are pretty much square cross section.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2017, 08:28:44 PM by TrunkMonkey »
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Re: Dissecting Dusty
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2017, 07:59:07 PM »
Are you sure it is a 300 Barb? The 340 was red and looks almost exactly the same as the 300. There is a two letter production code visible on the head surface below exhaust manifold on the right side of the engine. We can identify the year and engine size from that code.


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Re: Dissecting Dusty
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2017, 08:26:51 PM »
Yes, the husband did not liked the green and got it painted red.[emoji22] this is the way He was when I took him over. 

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Re: Dissecting Dusty
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2017, 08:29:48 PM »
Are you sure it is a 300 Barb? The 340 was red and looks almost exactly the same as the 300. There is a two letter production code visible on the head surface below exhaust manifold on the right side of the engine. We can identify the year and engine size from that code.


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I will look tomorrow. That way we can be sure.

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Re: Dissecting Dusty
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2017, 08:36:25 PM »


300





340

And yes, the 340 was green as well as red.
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Two quick observations (Re: Dissecting Dusty)
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2017, 10:05:56 PM »
Dear Barb and mid-60s Buick experts on anatomy,

Here are fresh pictures of Dusty.

I'm late to try to catch up on one of this year's episodes of the Curse of Oak Island.  However, I have two quick observations.  Dusty doesn't have the original Carter AFB carburetor, but an Edelbrock which I think you mentioned was replaced.  Do you know which Edelbrock carburetor model Dusty has?  Is it a Performer or Thunderer?  Also, this photograph appears to show that Dusty has an electric fan(s) for the radiator:



Is that correct?

Okay, back to d'em swell fellers on Oak Island.  I'll catch you tomorrow!  :icon_biggrin:

Cheers, Edouard

P.S. You should never dissect a classic Buick!  That might sting! . . . .  :laughing7:


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Re: Dissecting Dusty
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2017, 10:11:06 PM »
Dear Barb and mid-60s Buick experts on anatomy,

Here are fresh pictures of Dusty.

I'm late to try to catch up on one of this year's episodes of the Curse of Oak Island.  However, I have two quick observations.  Dusty doesn't have the original Carter AFB carburetor, but an Edelbrock which I think you mentioned was replaced.  Do you know which Edelbrock carburetor model Dusty has?  Is it a Performer or Thunderer?  Also, this photograph appears to show that Dusty has an electric fan(s) for the radiator:



Is that correct?

Okay, back to d'em swell fellers on Oak Island.  I'll catch you tomorrow!  :icon_biggrin:

Cheers, Edouard

P.S. You should never dissect a classic Buick!  That might sting! . . . .  :laughing7:
Have fun.  Fan goes to the oil coolant radiator from back in the fast running days. I love Oak Island.

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Re: Dissecting Dusty
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2017, 11:29:06 PM »
Some refer to the 300 as the 'Baby Nailhead'.  I like the nickname 'Pinhead'!  :icon_biggrin:

The 300 and 340 are similar, but the 340 is wider. Maybe someone here can ID your engine by using the air cleaner width/diameter as a reference. 340 is 66-67 only.
Some items from the Buick aluminum 215 and the later Rover V8 will fit the 300. If you want to dress the engine up, Offenhauser finned valve covers for the 215 fit the 300. Even Rover aluminum valve covers will fit.
'67 340 stamped steel valve covers look more like ones on the 350-400-455 engines, and less like the 401-425 Nailhead ones. That's what I have on my '66 Special.
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What does Dusty's radiator look like? (Re: Dissecting Dusty)
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2017, 10:55:09 AM »
Dear Barb and mid-60s Buick experts on anatomy,

Have fun.  Fan goes to the oil coolant radiator from back in the fast running days.

Okay, that explain why that didn't look exactly like a radiator.  Could you take a photo of Dusty's current radiator?  I'm curious.

I love Oak Island.

Yes indeed, who would have thought watching two brothers squandering millions of dollars on a wild goose chase could be so entertaining!  :laughing7:

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:

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Re: Dissecting Dusty
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2017, 12:07:19 PM »
Dear Barb and mid-60s Buick experts on anatomy,

Have fun.  Fan goes to the oil coolant radiator from back in the fast running days.

Okay, that explain why that didn't look exactly like a radiator.  Could you take a photo of Dusty's current radiator?  I'm curious.

I love Oak Island.

Yes indeed, who would have thought watching two brothers squandering millions of dollars on a wild goose chase could be so entertaining!  :laughing7:

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:


Carburetor is Elderbrook 600 cm manual chocke.

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Re: Dissecting Dusty
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2017, 12:37:35 PM »
Are you sure it is a 300 Barb? The 340 was red and looks almost exactly the same as the 300. There is a two letter production code visible on the head surface below exhaust manifold on the right side of the engine. We can identify the year and engine size from that code.


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Ok guys this is the best picture I could take. I could not really make out the numbers.Ya'll try to take a cracked at it. The Intake manifold,  the the exhaust manifold, that one is rough I could barely see the numbers my best guess are R 1869999 Either O Or D

Have fun.  Someone please let me know what Dusty is running  with.[emoji2]

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Re: Dissecting Dusty
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2017, 12:42:28 PM »
Are you sure it is a 300 Barb? The 340 was red and looks almost exactly the same as the 300. There is a two letter production code visible on the head surface below exhaust manifold on the right side of the engine. We can identify the year and engine size from that code.


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Ok guys this is the best picture I could take. I could not really make out the numbers.Ya'll try to take a cracked at it. The Intake manifold,  the the exhaust manifold, that one is rough I could barely see the numbers my best guess are R 1869999 Either O Or D

Have fun.  Someone please let me know what Dusty is running  with.[emoji2]

kicking Dust.
Too bad V8 is down I just found this.

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Dissecting Dusty
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2017, 06:43:40 PM »
1366695 = 65 4bbl 300 intake casting from teambuick reference section.


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Re: Dissecting Dusty
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2017, 06:56:20 PM »
1366695 = 65 4bbl 300 intake casting from teambuick reference section.


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Does it help to solve the mystery.  Is the same one Dusty has,  as pictured on top.

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