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65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« on: September 14, 2016, 05:10:17 PM »
Could someone give me some advice in this install.
Where exactly to cut floor?
Is there a harness available to connect vehicle to console harness?
any help would be appreciated.
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Re: 65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2016, 05:17:58 PM »
Could someone give me some advice in this install.
Where exactly to cut floor?
Is there a harness available to connect vehicle to console harness?
any help would be appreciated.

If some one else doesn't have the positioning of the hole, I can get that in a few days.

As for the wiring , it is part of the main dash harness. So, if your car didn't have a floor shift originally, I think the harness won't be set up for wiring to a console.
I haven't seen a Skylark dash harness prewired for a console. 

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Re: 65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2016, 05:25:21 PM »
Thank you. I would really appreciate it.
I just bought a complete console and shifter from ebay.
I want to install it correctly.
Maybe a wiring diagram will help me wire it up correctly.
Thank you for your reply.
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Re: 65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2016, 05:51:01 PM »
There is a bracket that is welded to the floor at the rear of the console for mounting.   The neutral safety switch is on the shifter. Not an easy part to find, so I hope that comes with your purchase.
 Also the linkage from the shifter to the transmission is a solid rod and if I remember correctly, the piece that bolts to the shifter is floor shifter specific.

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Re: 65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2016, 05:52:29 PM »
Looks like you just bought that console from me, I may have part of the harness that can be wired in to the main harness, I will check.  You will need to hook up the neutral safety switch, tach wire, and dash lights.  There might be somebody on this site that will have a complete dash wire harness that they would be willing to sell, that might make it easier.

I have included the retaining screws for the boot and mounting bolts for the console.  The neutral safety switch is there and the shifter rod.  The bracket at the rear of the console is not there.

Any questions, feel free to ask, there is a ton of info on this site and guys willing to help out.


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Re: 65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2016, 07:53:02 PM »
Sounds like you have most everything your going to need for that install.

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Re: 65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2016, 08:53:02 PM »
Welcome David!

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Re: 65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2016, 09:10:37 PM »
David

Sounds like you are on your way to hitting the ground running with your console upgrade.

If there is anything else you have questions on don't be afraid to speak up.

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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2016, 09:46:47 PM »
Dear David and 65GS.com welcome wagon, . . . .

I just joined this forum tonight.  I have been a Buick Nut all my life. This is my first 65 Skylark.


Welcome to 65GS.com David!

It feels good to talk with other Buick people, who love them as do.


If that is what makes you feel good then you have most definitely come to the right place!  :hello2:

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Re: 65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2016, 09:49:14 PM »
Welcome David!
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Re: 65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2016, 10:24:16 PM »
Welcome David ,
Glad to have you here . once you snoop around a little and as questions you,ll find theres a wealth of information here .
The folks here are great and very helpful .
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Re: 65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2016, 10:47:07 AM »
Here are some pictures of floor shift location.

I first found the center of the floor from side to side. Notice line marked "CL".
I also outlined the shifter base on the floor. Front of shifter base is 7- 1/4" back from the lead edge of the floor pan sheet metal.
  [ jpg 868 ]
The rear mounting bracket for the console is 31- 1/4" from the lead edge of the floor pan sheet metal. [ jpg 871 ]
The center rear of the shifter base is on the center of the floor. [ jpg 872 \
The right hand side [ passenger] of the hole in shifter base is 3/4" to center line of floor. [ jpg 873 ]

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Re: 65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2016, 10:49:45 AM »
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Re: 65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2016, 08:50:08 PM »
David,

 If I understand correctly, you have a Skylark with a 300 small block.
That being the case, the transmission you have will not work with a 401. Totally different transmissions. Another thing is that '63 and earlier big block cranks are for a Dynaflow transmission. If I recall correctly, '63 and earlier engines won't work with the '64 and up transmissions.

You are already aware of some differences in installing the big block nailhead in your Skylark,  the frame plates, engine plates and motor mounts are '65/'66 GS only. Also the oil pan is '65/'66 GS specific.

Just trying to let you know that there are some very specific parts that are 2 year application only to make this work for you.

We are always here to help answer questions.

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Re: 65 GS automatic console install in 65 Skylark non GS
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2016, 08:45:10 AM »
Thank you Loren.
After some more research, I have become a little more knowledgeable on the nailhead.
All my buicks have been BOP pattern, so I assumed the nailhead was also. Silly me....
I just sold a 77 Le Sabre project car this spring. I had put a 70 455 with th400 in it. Both rebuilt by me.
Two divorces and moving many moves in the last 15 yrs,it was a wonder I had held onto it that long...
But, my last gf convinced me to "get rid of that old car"
Im wishing now I'd kept it a little longer.....
Oh well. She got her walking papers and now the 65 is here to stay😀
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1966 Le Sabre 4Dr. HT 340 2bbl.
1968 Wildcat Conv. 430
1968 Riviera 430
1965 Skylark 2Dr. Post (Now 401 4 speed)
1977 Le Sabre 2Dr. w/1970 stg.1 455
1965 Buick Skylark 2Dr. sport coupe.