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Offline Buick_65

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Springs and things
« on: February 06, 2016, 05:38:03 PM »
My car leans 1.5" or so to the left. So the passenger side is high. We've swapped springs and made sure everything looked good. Anybody else have that issue after installing new springs?

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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2016, 06:00:29 PM »
Sounds like you have made sure that the spring is turned to the stop in the control arm.

Did you have the full weight of the car on the suspension when torqueing lower "A" arm bolts?

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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2016, 06:33:17 PM »
Is the whole side high (front and rear) or just the front ? In the video you posted earlier it looks like the whole passenger side of the car sits high. If it is did you swap the rear coils side to side also ? Plus what Loren said.

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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2016, 06:39:19 PM »
Good point Dan!
One of the rear springs not turned to the stop in the top may cause the same thing.

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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2016, 06:46:38 PM »
Currently it's a little less than the video shows. It's off to a much larger degree in the rear. I did not have the car together when we did the chassis, so will loosen and retorque the a arm bolts.  Rears were swapped side to side, and are oriented correctly in the pocket.

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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2016, 06:51:05 PM »
Where's the link to the video showing the car?
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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2016, 06:54:01 PM »
Guess I would re-torque all the suspension bolts , front and rear.

I put the front up on ramps and the rear axle on jack stands. It makes for a real pain to work under.

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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2016, 06:58:11 PM »
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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2016, 07:35:18 PM »
Currently it's a little less than the video shows. It's off to a much larger degree in the rear. I did not have the car together when we did the chassis, so will loosen and retorque the a arm bolts.  Rears were swapped side to side, and are oriented correctly in the pocket.

What can end up happening is a rear spring that's high will push down the opposite front corner of the car making the front sit crooked also.

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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2016, 08:51:07 PM »
Have a look at your shocks . One could be stuck or binding. I know it's not a lot of fun but you may want to check the shocks manually . ie  make both front are cycling the same (equal pressure in and out) Do the same with the rear.

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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2016, 10:46:19 PM »
I'll swap the shocks side to side and see what we see.

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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2016, 11:01:39 PM »
If the rear is the culprit, you can put a spacer between the rear's spring mount pad and the spring..... A metal disc/washer a couple of inches in diameter.
Might be best to take the springs out and compare side-to-side. If there's a noticeable difference in free height, call Espo and see if they'll exchange them.

I put some Moogs on the rear of my red '66 and it was uneven. Installed spacers to level it out.
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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2016, 11:07:03 PM »
Mine are moogs as well I believe. Free height appears to be the same. If it's the spring it's a rate issue.

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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2016, 11:26:59 PM »
Did you swap the rear springs left to right? And the right side is still high?

If yes, the front springs could be the cause.
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Re: Springs and things
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2016, 12:40:17 PM »
I wonder if these cars were perfectly level when brand new? Technology and tolerances have definitely advanced.
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