assistance with Trannys

[wheelz]

I didnt intend for this topic to go in this particular direction however, I am just thrilled to learn the tailshaft housing will swap out!!     WooooHooo!

Wheelz, Tampa Bay

[Loren At 65GS]

I didn't intend to step on toes, just wanted to clarify.

  Loren

[schlepcar]

Hmmmm...
So,  these Buicks share the round bellhousing as some jeeps? Is this the old aluminum buick block or older? I remember seeing round bellhousings on the smaller Buicks, but I did not think it was the same size as the 401/425. Not trying to jinx anybody, but it does not sound right.

[wheelz]

Ok guys... the JEEP this local man has, sports a Buick 350.  It has an adapter plate so the ST300 tranny bolts up to the 350. And then the Dana transfer case bolts up to the tail of the ST300.  He is removing ALL ST300 related parts to install a 700R4 tranny. 

Hope this clears things up a bit...

Wheelz, Tampa Bay

[schlepcar]

 I guess that was my issue..I think if the jeep originally had a small round bellhousing it may have been the wrong type of bellhousing. The 215 used a round one, but the starter was on the passenger side vs. driver side on the GS motor. I guess that would be the easiest way to know. I thought it would be a little too lucky for a jeep to have the 65-6 trans,and it is easy to mistake the two bcause they look the same at a quick glance.

[WkillGS]

I thought it would be a little too lucky for a jeep to have the 65-6 trans,and it is easy to mistake the two bcause they look the same at a quick glance.

I've heard Jeep did use the Nailhead case ST400/TH400/whatever400 behind some of the Jeeps in the 1960's-70's.
The Nailhead's trans 'bell' is shorter than other applications, so it was well suited to using an adapter to fit other engines.
I have some notes copied from the HAMB board that states the Buick trans was used on Jeep Wagoneers and pickups from 65-72. The Nailhead trans was also rumored to have been used in some Jaguar and Rolls Royce!
This applies to the 3 speed '400' trans only. I don't know if the 2 speed '300' trans was ever used in non-Buicks.

And Wheelz, there is even mention the Buick 350 engine (when installed in a Jeep) did use an adapter plate to mate to the Nailhead-style '400' trans!.... I don't know why they didn't just use a BOP TH400 trans, it may have been a licensing thing.
Just verify it's a 2 speed '300' trans with the correct output shaft (count the splines).
Good luck with the purchase, hope it works for you.

BTW, does that (Jeep) trans have the switch pitch converter???

[wheelz]

Walt... The fello tells me I will be getting everything related to the ST300 tranny...  I will know more when he calls me to pick it all up in a week or two.   

Wheelz, Tampa Bay

[schlepcar]

 I don't think anything would surprise me in an AMC. I have seen Chrysler, GM, Ford, and others on old jeeps right from the factory. I think delco supplied them as often as GM on small parts and a lot of them had GM-Saginaw steering parts. Good luck, if it looks legit,let us know so we can keep our eyes open. I know a guy in Florida who had a lot of AMC pieces.

[wheelz]

welll sheeeoooot.  Darrell, sent me pix of the st300 tranny removed from his Jeep.  Unfortunately, it IS the 300ci (BOP) tranny and NOT the 65 NAILHEAD Tranny we all thought it was...
SO I am back to SQUARE ONE. 

I need a st300 tranny for a 65-66 GS 401...  ANY usable condition.

Whatycha got?


Wheelz, Tampa Bay

[schlepcar]

We ...ALL.......thought it was? I really didn't mean to jinx ya,but it really didn't sound right unless the jeep had a 401/425. Does anybody have one that is closer to you?

[wheelz]

Jeeze, sorry for the funcusion.  "we ALL" was meant as He and I...   only because Darrell 'mentioned' the 350 Buick motor had a trans adapter to a st300...  when in fact it DID indeed have an adapter, but it was for the 4x4 transfer case and NOT a late model BOP to Nailhead bell housing adapter...   

OK. .  Can we move on now?

I am still on the hunt.

Wheelz, Tampa Bay

[Loren At 65GS]

Jeeze, sorry for the funcusion.  "we ALL" was meant as He and I...   only because Darrell 'mentioned' the 350 Buick motor had a trans adapter to a st300...  when in fact it DID indeed have an adapter, but it was for the 4x4 transfer case and NOT a late model BOP to Nailhead bell housing adapter...   

OK. .  Can we move on now?

I am still on the hunt.

Wheelz, Tampa Bay

Best of luck with the hunt Wheelz.
Since it appeared you had it local, the one I have got adopted.
 

 Loren

[schlepcar]

If Loren has sold his, I would probably sell mine cheap to a fellow American car owner. It is out of an 80K car with no issues and very clean fluid. I would not be afraid to put in a new seal and filter kit and use it as is. Dan

[wheelz]

AT this point I am eager to investigate all options now Dan.  Thank You for trying to help me out. Please email me your contact number and best time to call: PenWheelz@@ij.net

Again, THANK YOU.

Wheelz, Tampa Bay

[marxjunk]

gs has q diff converter too..its a higher stall than most..but the V6 with an ST300..

we always shoved v-6 converters in there to get an even higher stall..i must have thrown away 10 GS specific converters way back in the 80s

i think it has a white paint mark on it..or is it orange? too many years