Ginky Weeds Restoration Project

[elagache]

Dear Chuck, Jon, and mid-60s Buick caregivers,

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  I discussed this with Carmen and he's convinced the pump is the problem.  So it looks like I'll be tackling the pump change next week. 
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Sounds like a plausible diagnosis.  I hope the pump swap goes as smoothly as possible.

I've also ordered an oil filter cutter so that I can see if there is any telltale debris in the original filter from break in that might indicate other problems in the engine.  This was a Carmen suggestion that I think was a good one!

One more precaution you might consider is buying one of these heavy magnets to swap around the oil filter.  I think Biquette has one from this brand:

http://www.shopfiltermag.com/

If any ferrous metals get free in the oil, the magnet should trap them in the oil filter so they don't do any more damage.

Best of luck on this! 

Cheers, Edouard 

[cwmcobra]

Got to work this afternoon and with the help of my neighbor, got the pan removed, installed the new oil pump and replaced the pan.  Waiting for the RTV to set a bit before torquing the pan.  Tomorrow I'll put the drill motor on the oil pump and with fingers crossed, hope for proper oil pressure.  I'm pretty sure the pump is the problem since the one I removed seems to have a hitch in its giddy-up as you turn it. 

Hated to be in disassembly mode, but it wasn't too bad.  I was able to take the core support off with the radiator and shroud intact and that made it a whole lot easier.

Next chapter tomorrow!

 

Chuck

[GS66]

Thank you for the update! See you soon!

[yachtsmanbill]

That sure is purdy! Good luck with priming!  Bill

[dsags]

Sure hope that pump was the problem. Sorry you had to pull the motor. Waiting for tomorrow’s news.

Dan

[Brian]

Chuck,
  I think you can disassemble the old pump fairly easily and do a failure analysis on it.

[elagache]

Dear Chuck, Jim, Bill, Brian, and mid-60s Buick caregivers,

Got to work this afternoon and with the help of my neighbor, got the pan removed, installed the new oil pump and replaced the pan. 
. . . .

Sorry you had to take this step but hope this will cure da' patient! 

  I think you can disassemble the old pump fairly easily and do a failure analysis on it.

If you take the time to dismantle the pump, do let us know what you discover.

Cheers, Edouard 

[cwmcobra]

Put the drill motor to the oil pump this morning.  It primed immediately and with any speed at all pegged my 50 PSI gage.  I think it's good to go!!

It's all back together and ready to fire up again.  I'll wait until tomorrow to do that so that the RTV on the oil pan is fully cured.

I'm sending the failed pump to Carmen where he will disassemble it and figure out what went wrong.  I'll post his conclusions with pictures when I receive them. 

Hopefully mostly forward steps from here!

 

Chuck

[yachtsmanbill]

Thats a work of art!  Bill

[cwmcobra]

Thanks Bill.  Trying to impress those judges that you admire! 

Chuck

[yachtsmanbill]

That'll be 110.00 plus 20.00 in costs; pay the bailiff! (1970!)  Bill

[cwmcobra]

Fired it up tonight and have normal oil pressure.  50 PSI cold.  With warm oil about 40 at 2000, 30 at 1000, 25 at 900, 20 at 800, 15 at 700.  I think those pass muster!

Ready to move on to more assembly!   

Chuck

[cwmcobra]

That'll be 110.00 plus 20.00 in costs; pay the bailiff! (1970!)  Bill

No, the other judges....

[elagache]

Dear Chuck, Bill, and mid-60s Buick owners who are fans of "nice and shiny!" 

Fired it up tonight and have normal oil pressure.  50 PSI cold.  With warm oil about 40 at 2000, 30 at 1000, 25 at 900, 20 at 800, 15 at 700.  I think those pass muster!
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Congratulations!    Glad to hear that you are back in business!

I'm sending the failed pump to Carmen where he will disassemble it and figure out what went wrong.  I'll post his conclusions with pictures when I receive them. 

Please do!

No, the other judges....

. . . Well if I'm one of those judges it doesn't pass - not enough chrome!! . . .  . . . 

Cheers, Edouard 

P.S. Seriously, have you thought about applying a layer of Flitz (or whatever is your favorite metal polish) before you button-up the engine bay?  It does really kick up the shine and more importantly does seem to to a very good job of protecting the engine bay surfaces.

[cwmcobra]

I sent the failed pump to Carmen early last week and heard back from him.  The pump failed to provide full pressure because of debris that was lodged in the pressure relief circuit.  He described the debris to include several pieces of steel shot and a some pink fibrous material, possibly from a red shop rag, with a piece of metal wrapped around it that lodged itself in the the relief circuit.  I'll be talking with the block machining guys about their processing.  Not sure where else the steel shot would have come from.

Mystery solved....moving on to more assembly!!

 

Chuck