True GS ending on e-bay

[schlepcar]

Decent project on e-bay as a four speed, but I 'm thinking it was a three speed car. I am not so sure that that is a bad thing. How many of these are still around?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261716339969

[Brian]

You are correct--per the codes on the firewall tag, that was originally a 3-speed manual car.  The 4-speed the owner says he has for sale that is "correct" is not the correct one per the spline counts he gave.  Correct one has 10 spline input, and 27 spline output.  (guessing he just mis-counted when he said 9).  10 spline output came on the pre-64 T10s.

[schlepcar]

Yea...the car is definitely a project,but that looks like a CHEVY 12 bolt and it is just too cheap not to buy if someone is close to it. If that is a factory tilt column, it is worth more than the car is bringing. I think these cars are highly desirable to a lot of people if they are DONE,but I am not sure that us PROJECT guys are up for this particular task. Without the original driveline pieces it may just get parted.

[WkillGS]

It's not the correct tilt column either. If you look closely, it's a collapsible shaft, so it's later than a 1967. Can't tell if it has an ignition switch on the column. Anyone recognize those tilt/turn lever knobs?

There is too much missing on this car:
Nailhead engine mounts, adapters, and exhaust manifolds.
The 401 MT or LT engine isn't included, and likely doesn't have the correct GS oil pan or ex manifolds.
Clutch linkage.... z-bar and related. Which won't work with the EELCO bellhousing anyway.
Wrong steering column. I wonder if anything was butchered to make it fit? It's a larger dia than the 65-66.
Engine wiring harness was 'modified' for the 455.
Firewall seam is bondo'd up to make it smooth.
No trunk pic.... is it rusted? Not many floor pics either. Is that dark spot on the pass side floor by the vent a hole or a wet spot? We see the rusted roof.
The biggest unanswered question is how much rust there is.
The only real value in this thing is the 12 bolt rear, and possibly the body/frame (with the 3-speed manual trim tag) if it's not too rusted out.

The guy that wrote in and said it would be a $40,000 car after a $15,000 investment must be a friend of the seller.  A $40,000 investment is likely to produce a $25,000 car in today's market.
 

[Loren At 65GS]

Correct engine code for a '65 GS is "LR" and we have documented some '65 GS with the "LT" code.
M, code is '66

Looking at the rust in the roof, it would most likely be easier to put a different roof on and the trunk probably is in bad shape.

$25,K  would be a stretch for a NOM car, I think. Missing way too many things to make it a good investment to restore.

  Loren

[GS66]

This really makes that white 4 speed car that just sold for about $14k look like a great deal!

[schlepcar]

That is funny that you mention the 40k investment being a 25k car....I agree that the post on his ad is definitely his friend. If you read it there is the mention that it is a 4 speed car with tilt column according to the trim tag. I see no such options on the tag,and it is definitely early 70's levers on that column. At any rate...bucket seats,12 bolt,frame,and all the smalls would still be nice to have for cheap. If you want a real laugh look at the 69 trans am on e-bay. I don't see anyone restoring these cars that are missing every rare and valuable piece that is needed. I am more of a capilist than a socialist,so I wish them lots of luck.

[Mark Ascher]

The first question sounds like it was written by the seller.
"Put $15k into it and you have a $40-50K car!" That made me chuckle. 15k might get you to the point of having collected the 10k missing parts so you could start on it.

Mark

[Mark Ascher]

$1500. Was it worth that?

Mark

[35chevcoupe]

Hi Mark . I,m new on here and was wondering the same thing .
It does appear it has a chevelle differential in it . I bought a 71 GS this summer and have always liked buicks.
John   Zimmerman mn.

[schlepcar]

I think the car was well bought if you did not have to go far to get it. It looked like someone robbed all the good stuff a long time ago. A nice frame is getting hard to find and that looked like it had some pretty decent trim and sheet metal. I know every time I sell a part I can't replace it for what I sell it for. It would be nice if someone put the car back together.

[35chevcoupe]

Are a lot of the parts for a 65GS hard to find or are they just kind of pricey ?
I wouldn't think a roof would be real hard to find .

[WkillGS]

Lots of stuff for a 65 GS are hard to find. In this case, the car needs the 65-66 GS engine mounts and adapter plates, exhaust manifolds, and the extremely hard to find bellhousing and clutch linkage. Maybe the rear sump oil pan too.
Chrome is tough too. Bumpers can be rechromed, but the taillights will be real expensive to have redone. Ditto for grille and headlight doors.
Roof can be replaced, that's mostly labor $$. Floors and trunk are repo'd, so that's labor $$ too.
Interior soft materials are repo'd, but again, good chrome must be located.

[35chevcoupe]

Well if the car really is what it was really listed as it will be put back together as close to original as possible because I won the auction  . I'm not going out to pick it up till the engine and trans are listed just in case I buy them also .    I was just hoping I wasn't bidding against someone here .

[Mark Ascher]

Hi John,

Welcome to the 65 GS forum. What is your plan for the car? There is a great group of 65 owners near you.
Let us know how we can help.

Mark