64-65 USED Black carpeting..?? ya USED.

[wheelz]

Ok. Here goes.  Having restored hundreds of 70-72 GS/larks over the past 45+ years, I was about ready to DIVE INTO A TOTAL RESTO of my newest found project...  65 GS with 53,000 original miles.  (as shown below)
Noticed  I said "I WAS ABOUT READY TO".??

Good friend Sid Myer BCA, GSCA & AACA judge, & his lovely wife Belva, were at our home for Thanksgiving Dinner. Sid saw this 65 GS and kinda/sorta briefly inspected the ORIGINAL condition, ORIGINAL CARB, ORIGINAL DISTRIBUTOR, ORIGINAL SPARE TIRE, ORIGINAL INTERIOR on & on & on. . . .  he suggested NOT RESTORING it right away... but very convincingly, because of its originality, WHY NOT show it in SURVIVOR CLASS at the GS Nationals? especially since 2015 will be the 50 YEAR ANIVERSARY of the BUICK GS!!!   SO, thats what im going to attempt to do.   

The original carpeting was hacked up by the original owner 'mechanic' just in case the carpet was to get damp/wet, it would NOT rust the floors.  GOOD IDEA, eh?
SO parts of the original carpeting are flat out torn up and gone.

This is going to be a REEEAL SERIOUS CHALLENGE for me to remove the interior just to install USED but DECENT BLACK original carpeting... ya know?    I really want to install new carpeting...however, I am thinking that move would be detremental to the outcome of A SURVIVOR CLASS candidate...

So that being said, I am looking for BLACK, original, generally and typical worn BUT NOT TORN, THIN OR STRINGY... loop carpeting from a 64 or 65, and MAYBE?  66 lark/GS?  2 DOOR OR 4 DOOR... I will make it work.

I KNOW its a C R A Z Y request ...however, ANYONE OUT THERE wanna help me out with this challenge??? 

ThanX in advance!

Wheelz, Tampa Bay

[dsags]

Wheelz,

That filthy old carpet might have looked black but white interiors came with gray carpet.

Dan

[wheelz]

Wellthen, this would be an AH-hhHA moment!  This could explain WHY the dash was Grey and not black?  (as per pix attached)

Wheelz, Tampa Bay

     

[dsags]

Yeah, that's the correct dash color for a white interior. Good luck with the carpet search.

Dan

[wheelz]

I would think decent GREY carpeting would be a needle-inna-haystack kinda thang. . So I am still open to a faded BLACK carpet.

ya...it COULD work... 

Wheelz, Tampa Bay

[schlepcar]

So I am not crazy.....I have to tell someone....I have looked at my dash thinking,Is it faded? Did some goofball paint it gray? So if the dash is supposed to be gray,what about the steering column and wheel? I thought the carpet was black too when I tore it apart. Car was originally white bucket interior. This is interesting because I have never seen gray carpet.

[Mark Ascher]

White interior car would have had a grey steering wheel & column.

Mark

[wheelz]

Yes, the steering column is grey, NOT black.  The later model black sport wheel is wrong, as is the larger hub and that 66 horn button... I have a correct smaller hub.  AND it appears the grey dash and surround is original.  Inside the edges of the glovebox and ash tray is also grey...
But it really appears to me, the carpet is black...   I'm just say'n. 

Wheelz, Tampa Bay   

[Loren At 65GS]

Here is dealer documentation to show how an interior is to be.
This is from the '65 Buick Features and Facts book. This book is something a salesman would have at his desk as reference.

Loren

[wheelz]

....AWESOME information Loren! THANQ!

[Loren At 65GS]

Dennis,

 You are welcome!

I hope you can find some gray carpet. It's unfortunate that a previous owner made the choice to remove the original.

If not, I think a new gray would be a better choice and an easier  explanation. Further it would be more  in keeping with the survivor category.

Just some thoughts,
  Loren

[wheelz]

I agree... but it iz whut it iz.  Nuttin I can do about it now... I actually have already considered new grey carpeting...  but only AFTER I research details about the inz an' outz of that SURVIVOR STATUS...

Wheelz, Tampa Bay

[65GS]

 
Don't know why but Buick for some reason used Gray for carpet, column, dash & door trim with White Interior. Chevy, Olds , Pontiac all used Black with White Interior.
Used to have people all over me about the Gray when I used to do the show circuit, even when I had all the various books with me.
I personally liked the gray better than black because it was a softed transition in color change than white to black.
Can't wait for spring to finish painting dash and column in gray on the hardtop. Carpet already done.

just my 2cents

AL

[wheelz]

I may've missed it and dont see this spelled out EXACTLY on the below Sales Sheet provided by Loren, (it does say UPPER instrument panel) but ... would Buick have installed a matching GREY dash PAD??    It appears mine is BLACK... 

Wheelz, Tampa Bay 

[Loren At 65GS]

Yes, the dash pad is gray.

  Loren