'65 GS 4-speed for sale in KC on Craigslist

[nut465gs]

Walt,

Very interesting. Learn something new everyday. It appears that the VIN tag was masked off for the repaint and there are signs of "aging" around those rivets. I do think this is a true numbers matching GS, but why remove the firewall trim tag in the first place. Regardless, the car has too many restoration issues to be priced at $15K.

John

[WkillGS]

.... but why remove the firewall trim tag in the first place. .....

Could be for a perfectly innocent reason.... to paint the firewall, or 'restore' the finish on the trim tag, etc.
I did the same on my blue '66 way back in the 1980's when I refinished the firewall.... took the tag off, painted the firewall, and reattached the tag with pop rivets. Who knew back then we would now make such a fuss about the 'correctness' of things!
My '65 has surface rust creeping under the trim tag....once upon a time I would have removed the tag to treat the rust. Now I wouldn't dare touch those original rivets!!

[Brian]

I know for a fact the VIN tag in my 64 had round rivets holding it on.  It had never been off when I got the car--could tell by the rust bleeding out from behind it.   I bought it from the original owners and was around the car growing up as a kid (friends of the family).  Most sources say that GM didn't start using the special rivets until 65.  There may have been some transition time there as well, so some early 65's may still have the round rivets. 

[nut465gs]

Brian,

That makes sense as the build date of the GS is the third week in January. It also has the early rectangular grille emblem. As I mentioned earlier, the VIN tag round rivets look aged.

John

[marxjunk]

i owned and early small badge 65 GS in the 80s it had round rivits on the VIN tag..my 65 skylark had round too..but i dont know the production date

ive owned a dozen 64 65 gtos and lemans"..all round rivits..some time mid to late 65 they became rosette..

[65GS]

My 65 conv., built 2nd wk. Feb. has the rosetta rivets, also Small  grill emblem. I can guarantee they have never been off. Pa inspection is VERY picke about that.

Wish you could seen what I had to do to Register Mr T's hardtop. Took over 2 months to get a plate, even with all paper work.
Al

[marxjunk]

i made a mistake..64s had spot welded vin tags...at least on pontiacs...i dont know what i was thinking..i was lying in bed this morning and realized i mis-spoke.....age i guess

[gssizzler]

I would take a second look at this car if you could verify vin # on trans and on frame rail ! You mite have the real thing ! My Kansas built GS 02B has. Round stainless steel rivets ! All numbers match engine ,trans frame protet-o-plate trim sheet and date codes to! I have parted another gs and have seen half dozen cars. With round rivets! My buddy even,Parted one that had one round and one rosette!