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Offline dl7265

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GS Battery cable source ?
« on: July 29, 2012, 10:38:55 PM »
M&H electrical has battery cables for v6 & v8 NON GS for 1965. What is everyone using ? Perhaps they would be willing to make some sets if enough interest. Does anyone have their original cables still ?

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 07:52:23 AM »
Don,

Using the 66 M & H Gran Sport battery cables on mine. They are a little longer but nice.

Dan
1965 Special Convertible, L33 LS, 4L60

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 09:53:58 AM »
I have a set of orginals on my car that are in excellent condition. 
'64 Skylark 2dr ht 4 speed, 300-4
'65 GS ht, 4 speed,2-4s,AC,PS,PB,PW,Pseat,Tilt
'66 Skylark 2dr ht 300-2 automatic
'78 Yamaha DT 400 2 stroke
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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 11:19:32 AM »
Don,

Original 65 has bolt-on cable ends - not spring ring.
Is that what M&H lists?

Mark
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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2012, 12:16:52 PM »
66's are spring ring

Dan
1965 Special Convertible, L33 LS, 4L60

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2012, 04:17:48 PM »
I have a set of orginals on my car that are in excellent condition.
Brian,
Do you know the lengths ? or when convenient could you measure them ? Which style terminals are they ?
Thanks,
DL 

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2012, 05:36:55 PM »
Don,

Original 65 has bolt-on cable ends - not spring ring.
Is that what M&H lists?

Mark
They show 64-67 as spring ring. However, they do not have 65 GS. Only Skylark and special. Supposedly they have all the original drawings?

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2012, 05:49:02 PM »
DL,

These are original 65 cables. The 65 GS all had bolt on terminals.

Mark
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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2012, 06:20:08 PM »
Thank you Mark,
I just spoke to Ken at M&H. He looked at the drawings, which weren't the best he said. They can only do spring ring ends and he could not tell exactly what the size of the bolt end was, or where it mounts. crap

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2012, 06:41:08 PM »
Have not seen a measurement to know what the correct length is but Old Cars carries this BC31-3
http://www.oldbuickparts.com/catalog/1961-up-skylark-gs-group-electrical-battery-cable-1963-66-buick-positive-p-2509.html

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2012, 08:57:39 AM »
At some point in the past, the previous owner of my car converted to a side post battery, not quite sure why, but it is what it is.  I was planning to convert over to a top mount battery when it came time to replace (probably coming close), but I gather from this post that it might not be as simple as I thought.  I was thinking I could just buy a generic set of battery cables, or even have a set made up from standard parts on the end, but sounds like this isn't true?

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2012, 11:52:09 AM »
I thought that I'd add my two cents worth to add to the confusion. In 1997 I bought a set of battery cables for my convertible. I bought them from a guy that had 100 sets specially made using the same manufacturer and the same "blueprints" that built them for Buick in 1965. I paid $100 for them but was very pleased with the quality, etc. They even had the part # printed on them, # 2989274 for the positive battery cable. Yes, they had the clamp type ends on them rather than the spring ring style. Yes, he sold them all.

In my 1965 Buick Parts Numbers Book, it has the following written; 4000 Gran Sport H.D. BTRY. & CLAMP JOBS #2989274. If you look in the Gran Sport Supplement Manual, page 10-4, illustration 10-1, it shows  clamp style battery cables. So I thought that I had it correct. However, when I had it judged at the 1999 BCA Nationals in Columbus, Ohio, they deducted a point for having the wrong style battery cable, they indicated that it should have been the spring ring style. Go figure.

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2012, 05:06:09 PM »
I have an NOS packard...postitve, still in the box its an old 60s green box..doesnt have a number printed on it...but its a HD cable with bolt on clamp, specific to the 65 GS...

red positive? ive had a few 65s never saw red cable, and mine is black, and has + on the clamp i believe...

i thought around 69 or 70 the cables went to red because of the side mount cables and they started color coding....hmmmm...


I just walked thru my shop..and not one of my 65-68s have red cables all are black, and spring rings, but my 65 is abolt on, and its black..my cars are unrestored originals...some have never been touched and waiting resto, but there isnt a red cable on any of them, my 66 GS is black too...12 65-68s no red cables

and i have 50 NOS cables and just went thru them and no reds..all black, until late 69 when the cables went to side posts, and some are black some red, but the part number decodes weather its a positive or neg...

and of course the positive cables are for the bigger postive top post..you can lay them next to each other ansd can see the diff....

so whats the story with the red positive cable..just wondering....it it a "wrong" repop? is it an assy plant thing? im really curious...
« Last Edit: July 31, 2012, 05:23:09 PM by marxjunk »

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2012, 06:06:39 PM »
my delco packard book, dated 1969 shows 2 cables for 65 Skylark GS,,,one is jsut a part number the other is a part number with a foot note saying heavy duty the one i have NOS is the heavy duty part with bolt on clamp...

very interesting stuff

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2012, 08:33:56 AM »
Sean Rogers, had these made! Negative number is 02983776 ( 17 .5 in long) black, positive 02987272 ( 25 in long)  red ,measusred from center of clamp to center of terminal! these where made by packard electric! here are pics of clamp end! and both wires, neg. also has a body ground wire!