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Title: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: gssizzler on December 01, 2020, 10:58:29 AM
Started on the rebuild of the spare 4speed transmission! Kinda of a mess
as the car it was in had a engine fire and the grease got burnt in a little! So had it disassembled to make sure it is rebuildable! Thought that the photos would be a good reference of how a clean one looks and where to find date and casting codes! So far these parts were put in the ultrasonic cleaner and bead blasted!
They look very good compared to the dirty nasty trans that I started with!
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: gssizzler on December 01, 2020, 10:59:43 AM
More! Main case and back-up switch bracket are in the hot tank soaking!
Title: Thanks for sharing! (Re: 65 T-10 rebuild)
Post by: elagache on December 01, 2020, 02:05:20 PM
Dear Jon and mid-60s Buick restorers,

Started on the rebuild of the spare 4speed transmission! Kinda of a mess
as the car it was in had a engine fire and the grease got burnt in a little!
. . . . .

Thanks for sharing!  Indeed you have done a great job of getting all that nasty stuff off the parts.  Looking forward to your progress!

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: Jimbo on December 01, 2020, 04:31:52 PM
Excellent job.
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: gssizzler on December 28, 2020, 02:20:50 AM
So finally got some time to work on more of the 4 speed parts! Cleaned and painted the case! It was very rusty also! First had to put it in the hot tank then I had to use flapper wheels then I had to run it through the bead blaster! But it looks good now! So more pictures for reference! Vin code location,build date and casting date! Also tapped all 20 tread holes!
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: gssizzler on December 28, 2020, 02:24:17 AM
Here are some pictures with the cast paint on it! I cleaned it with a general paint prep then warmed the case a little with the heat gun! I seem to get better results with this extra step on the cast parts!
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: dsags on December 28, 2020, 06:23:28 AM
Very nice ! Thanks for the reference photos too.

Dan
Title: Interesting - air temperature? (Re: 65 T-10 rebuild)
Post by: elagache on December 28, 2020, 01:11:29 PM
Dear Jon, Dan, and mid-60s Buick restorers,

Here are some pictures with the cast paint on it! I cleaned it with a general paint prep then warmed the case a little with the heat gun! I seem to get better results with this extra step on the cast parts!

Interesting idea to preheat the part before painting.  Roughly how hot or cold is your workspace at the moment?  Certainly if you are working close to the lower temperature limit for that paint, preheating would be only prudent. 

Thanks for sharing!

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: Brian on December 28, 2020, 08:09:30 PM
Interesting the trans has the cast iron side cover.  In my experience, that was only used on the very late built cars and as a service replacement.  Most came with a di-cast AL side cover.   The earlier T10s had a sand cast AL side cover, but that was pre-64.
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: WkillGS on December 28, 2020, 10:25:52 PM
Interesting the trans has the cast iron side cover.  In my experience, that was only used on the very late built cars and as a service replacement.  Most came with a di-cast AL side cover.   The earlier T10s had a sand cast AL side cover, but that was pre-64.

Wow, that is a late one!....WG75 2 decodes to a July 7, 1965, 2nd shift.
Mine is a WG65 2, or July 6th. Car was assembled in the final weeks, 3rd week of August 1965.

Happy Birthday Brian! :occasion13:

Jon, do you have your own hot tank or do you take it to a shop? And what is your ultrasonic setup? We have a Crest Ultrasonic console at work, but we use it for optics.... no way I can use it for car parts!
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: WkillGS on December 28, 2020, 10:30:00 PM
Noticed the VIN is stamped on the case. Is that an 'F' for Flint?
Mine is stamped on the tailshaft, it's a Baltimore car.
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: GS66 on December 29, 2020, 06:50:39 AM
The rebuild is looking good!
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: gssizzler on December 30, 2020, 08:30:50 AM
 Plenty warm in the garage but the case was still cold to the touch so the heat gun is the best option for warming it! Too warm would also be bad! I take parts to my buddies machine shop for the hot tank! My buddy Randy's ultra sonic cleaner is made by ultrasonic power corporation Freeport IL! Drove there and picked it up! I will have ask the size!? It uses sonic waves and heat for cleaning! We use pinesol or blue dawn dishwashing soap , no nasty chemicals!
Yes trans is a later one with iron side cover! It is a Flint vin 5H , was very rusty on the surface!
Title: Worming your secrets out! (Re: 65 T-10 rebuild)
Post by: elagache on December 30, 2020, 01:08:17 PM
Dear Jon and mid-60s Buick engine bay interior decorators, . . . . .

Plenty warm in the garage but the case was still cold to the touch so the heat gun is the best option for warming it! Too warm would also be bad!
. . . .

Okay, now I understand the situation.  I was curious if you had discovered something unexpected like overheating the part actually resulted in a better paint job.  You never know!

Thanks for sharing!

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: gssizzler on June 03, 2021, 10:52:28 PM
Trans is going back together testfittng checking for cracks ,damage etc.
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: gssizzler on December 17, 2021, 02:44:15 AM
Done pictures!, forgot to put these up!
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: GranSportSedan on December 17, 2021, 08:06:58 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: GS66 on December 17, 2021, 08:54:23 AM
 Very nice! How much did the rebuild cost? I have a GS T-10 in parts.
Title: How heavy is it? (Re: 65 T-10 rebuild)
Post by: elagache on December 17, 2021, 01:14:31 PM
Dear Jon, Bob, Jim, and mid-60s Buick caregivers,

Done pictures!, forgot to put these up!

Congratulations!  It does look very nice!

Naive question: exactly how much does the transmission weigh?  I know plastic buckets are quite sturdy, but I would have been a little chicken to use one as a transmission stand!

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: gssizzler on December 17, 2021, 04:58:09 PM
Thanks guys! The weight is about 75 pounds empty, I believe! I have around $700 getting it fully rebuilt and In ready to go order! I bought the most complete rebuild kit and I did replace all bushings and the reverse idoiler shaft, new speedo pieces and new grade 8 bolts and star washers! Plus labor as I had Tom Carr my transmission guy disassemble and reassemble! I did the case cleaning paint and clear! So my labor is free! Lol
Title: Re: 65 T-10 rebuild
Post by: cwmcobra on December 18, 2021, 04:47:43 PM
Quality work Jon.  Kudos!!  :hello2: