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Electrical => Electrical => Topic started by: markrieb on August 30, 2019, 02:43:01 PM

Title: Turn Signal issues
Post by: markrieb on August 30, 2019, 02:43:01 PM
Background:

Just installed a new Ron Francis 24/7 wiring harness. Replaced the front turn signal sockets with new sockets (not just the spring and pins), extra ground from the socket to the grounding backbone, Super-Brite LED 1157 amber bulbs, new headlight switch, rear tail lights are Digi-Tails full panel replacement LED lights.

What works: Headlights work fine; front marker lights work fine; rear tail lights work fine; rear brake lights work fine

What doesn't work: turn signals... If I engage a turn signal, both the front and rear lights on that side light up but do not blink. Both the left and right side does this.

What I've tried: three different LED rated flashers, swapping the flasher fuse and relay, no changes

What I need: Any hints on where to start troubleshooting next?
Title: Re: Turn Signal issues
Post by: Jimbo on August 30, 2019, 06:17:12 PM
this is a shot in the dark...remove the ground from one of the front sockets and see if that does anything to that side.
Title: Re: Turn Signal issues
Post by: yachtsmanbill on August 30, 2019, 07:22:34 PM
^^ What he said. You do realize that LED's being diodes, only allow current to flow in one direction. Most likely, hyper sensitive to a good ground as well. Use an ANALOG Multimeter and check for voltage on both legs, and an OHM meter check on the ground(s). There was a discussion somewhere about the same malady that you are experiencing, and IIRC, it had to do with a grounding type of flasher. Another issue is making them sequential. Id like to do the same with the '64 special, so keep us informed. Bill

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?441522-Issues-replacing-1157-bulb-with-LEDs (https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?441522-Issues-replacing-1157-bulb-with-LEDs)

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=wbxpXeSiG-O1gge73I_YAQ&q=replacing+1157+lamps+with+LED%27s&oq=replacing+1157+lamps+with+LED%27s&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30.7172.18043..18815...0.0..0.151.3308.12j20......0....1..gws-wiz.....10..35i39j0j0i131j33i299j33i160.XogjVQk4LgI&ved=0ahUKEwikh7vj6qvkAhXjmuAKHTvuAxsQ4dUDCAc&uact=5 (https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=wbxpXeSiG-O1gge73I_YAQ&q=replacing+1157+lamps+with+LED%27s&oq=replacing+1157+lamps+with+LED%27s&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30.7172.18043..18815...0.0..0.151.3308.12j20......0....1..gws-wiz.....10..35i39j0j0i131j33i299j33i160.XogjVQk4LgI&ved=0ahUKEwikh7vj6qvkAhXjmuAKHTvuAxsQ4dUDCAc&uact=5)



https://www.google.com/search?ei=1LxpXculK8HksAXB97_4Dg&q=sequential+LED%27s+on+tail+lights&oq=sequential+LED%27s+on+tail+lights&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30l4.100602.113155..113572...0.1..0.239.3418.0j25j2......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i7i30j0j0i13i70i249j0i13j0i30j0i13i5i30.bp1wEJtx0sI&ved=0ahUKEwjL39Ls6qvkAhVBMqwKHcH7D-8Q4dUDCAo&uact=5 (https://www.google.com/search?ei=1LxpXculK8HksAXB97_4Dg&q=sequential+LED%27s+on+tail+lights&oq=sequential+LED%27s+on+tail+lights&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30l4.100602.113155..113572...0.1..0.239.3418.0j25j2......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i7i30j0j0i13i70i249j0i13j0i30j0i13i5i30.bp1wEJtx0sI&ved=0ahUKEwjL39Ls6qvkAhVBMqwKHcH7D-8Q4dUDCAo&uact=5)
Title: Re: Turn Signal issues
Post by: markrieb on September 01, 2019, 04:51:35 PM
Turns out I needed to swap the polarity of the flasher.  Just used jumper wires for now, but have disk type polarity changer that will make for a clean installation on its way from Amazon

Thanks to all who replied for the help
Title: Re: Turn Signal issues
Post by: markrieb on November 08, 2019, 06:59:46 PM
Fixed...  The original tail lights had issues with the sequencer, so Digi-Tails sent me a full new set and once I got the flasher polarity right, everything works
Title: Re: Turn Signal issues
Post by: GS66 on November 08, 2019, 07:51:09 PM
That is why I had to take the LED taillights out of my 57 Dodge to get the cruise control to work. Your lights turned out great!
Title: Re: Turn Signal issues
Post by: Rollaround on November 09, 2019, 05:35:36 PM
A brighter idea, very cool!  Thanks for hanging in there to work the bugs out of a prototype for the rest of our group.

I had a set built for my Special by a different source, I never thought mine were bright enough during daytime use, yours look much brighter.