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General Discussion => Q & A => Topic started by: BuickGS65 on March 01, 2019, 11:35:13 AM
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Does anyone have photos of the factory heater hose brackets installed on both 300 & 401 cars?
I really could use some reference pictures & any other info you have. Thanks!
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I found some factory illustrations but I’d like to see an actual photo of the hose brackets installed.
Does anyone have them on their car? They’re factory correct, no?
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Dear Dan and 65GS.com "seekers of engine bay harmony." . . . .
I found some factory illustrations but I’d like to see an actual photo of the hose brackets installed.
Does anyone have them on their car? They’re factory correct, no?
Have you thought of sending Mike Jones (http://65gs.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=678) a PM and asking if he could take this sort of photo for you?
After all he just got an award for his unrestored 1965 GS:
http://65gs.com/board/index.php/topic,4339.0.html (http://65gs.com/board/index.php/topic,4339.0.html)
Cheers, Edouard
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The only heater hose bracket I recall for a '65 Gran Sport is on an AC equipped car. It is a bracket for the heater valve mounted on the passenger side front intake manifold bolt. I don't recall any heater hose brackets on a non AC '65 Gran Sport.
Loren
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The brackets in the attached view from the Assembly Manual are the ones that I'd like to have. If anyone has them available or knows of a source, please let me know.
Thanks!
Chuck
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Hey Chuck... keep on me; today is Pats cataract surgery and then the rest of the week is hit-n-miss. I may have saved the brackets from the V6 if they'd be any help. That's just like the 340 CI with the dist. in the front. Just about everything up front lines up with later SBB and BBBs for reference. Due diligence... just let me know... Bill
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If you still have them, Bill, I'd love to see them. I'll play nag next week.... :laughing7:
All the best for Pat's surgery and your caregiving!
:cheers2:
Chuck
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Are these brackets exclusive to the 65GS or are they the same on full size cars ?
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Brackets ??? I've never ever seen brackets like that before, and I've parted out Skylarks and larger series Buick's in scrapyards and here at home. If there is such a thing someone please post a photo of the set.
Thanks.
Tony
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Have the front ‘bracket’ on my non-ac car. Actually more like just a short piece of metal with a hole in it. The bracket is bolted to the intake manifold. The ac cars use the hole in the intake manifold for the bracket that holds the compressor/alternator. Have never seen a rear bracket.
Dan
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I have the rear bracket. Not on the car right now. I'll dig it up and post a pic.
Mark
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The only bracket I have on any of the Nailheads I have . And I think this is for AC equipped cars only .
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Looking for both the front and rear brackets!
Also, anyone have a picture of the 300 brackets installed?
Thanks!
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Brackets on a 66 Skylark
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This is the rear bracket. I swear I have the front one too, but I'm going to have to dig deeper in the archive.
Mark
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Looks just like the picture. Thanks Mark!
Chuck
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Dear Brian and 65GS.com members who stroll down memory lane,
Brackets on a 66 Skylark
While that wasn't your intention, this picture brought back memories of my Dad and I working on my trusty wagon when I was teenager. So thanks for the memories! :thumbsup:
Cheers, Edouard :occasion14:
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Here is a picture of the front one. This is the original intake from Bill's [gs spoken here] 65 GS.
Thanks for sending the pics to me Bill.
Loren
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Bill, is it for sale?! LOL
Mark
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Mark, not for sale, will put it back on my 65 when I repair the heater and put new hoses on. I will look on my other 65 manifolds and see if they have one and I would sell it. I have never seen another, and never seen a rear one. Do you want to sell one of the rear ones? Looking at the front one in the assembly manual mine looks different? Thanks Bill.
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I think we should combine efforts (and brackets) and speak to Mike Garrison (Mr. Buick) about reproducing these (like the hood ornament spacers, grill emblem brackets & the oil pan fuel line clips).
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Great idea Dan. Can Mark, Bill and/or anyone else provide samples to Dan?
Chuck
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Heres another question concerning those hose brackets . Will they work on the dual quad intake cars ? I realize they didn't come factory with dual quads but will they transfer over ?
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Heres another question concerning those hose brackets . Will they work on the dual quad intake cars ? I realize they didn't come factory with dual quads but will they transfer over ?
John,
I was wondering the same thing and checked on my engine. The AC compressor bracket on my engine bolts to the spot on the front of the intake manifold where I'm sure the flat bracket would mount on the non-AC engine. And the heater hoses just fit snugly underneath it. The smaller hose on the bottom and the larger on top.
However, there is no bolt hole at the rear of the intake manifold to fasten the rear bracket. Since the coil is not mounted in the same place on the 2x4 intake, there are no bolt bosses there. So I conclude that there is no rear bracket on the 2x4 engine.
Pictures attached. If anyone has an original 2x4 setup in a big car (since the GS didn't get the 2x4 from the factory), pictures would confirm the correct approach.
:cheers2:
Chuck
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Thanks Guys for posting those photos of the bracket, I may have them not knowing what they were for, I will try to over to the garage this weekend and go thru the bins of parts from the parted out Buick's. If i have some, I will let you know. Were those brackets only on AC Buick's ? :icon_scratch:
Tony
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Tony,
It appears the flat front bracket was only on the non-AC engines. It seems the AC compressor bracket on the AC engines replaces the flat bracket. See pictures above.
:cheers2:
Chuck
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I went over to the garage and checked thru the boxes of brackets marked 401-425 and i found 1 set, :idea1: They are very basic and would not be hard to duplicate once the pattern is made, handcrafting takes time but I will attempt to make another set by hand as soon as i complete the special project that I'm doing now.
:cheers2:
Tony
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I think we should combine efforts (and brackets) and speak to Mike Garrison (Mr. Buick) about reproducing these (like the hood ornament spacers, grill emblem brackets & the oil pan fuel line clips).
I went over to the garage and checked thru the boxes of brackets marked 401-425 and i found 1 set, :idea1: They are very basic and would not be hard to duplicate once the pattern is made, handcrafting takes time but I will attempt to make another set by hand as soon as i complete the special project that I'm doing now.
:cheers2:
Tony
I think we're onto something here.
Loren
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Had some time this week to play around with those heater hose brackets. I made a second set for my GS project. #1) I first made a pattern on some thin white cardboard so i could transfer the image on to some sheet steel. In photo #2) you can see the rough cut of both pieces. I used a dremmel type tool with carbide blade to make the straight cuts. For the hole i used my drill press. #3) The rest of the work was done by hand using files, small vice, 8 oz hammer, 50lb anvil , long nose pliers, MAAP gas, 220 grit wet/dry sandpaper, 1/2inch steel bar, then they took a trip into the blasting cabinet. When they came out they received 3 coats of Buick green engine paint...
I kept track of the time since the work was performed over a 3 day period. Total time was just a little over 6 hours. This is not a cost effective way of making these. I just wanted to show with some time & effort it can be done. Also in photo #3 the original brackets are to the left of the repros..
:thumbsup:Tony
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Hey Tony,
Would love to see your work, but no pictures are showing up. Can you add them??
:cheers2:
Chuck
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picture #1
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picture #2
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photo #1
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sorry that's #3
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Sorry Chuck we had to re-size the photos... my son Mike is helping, im not good with the photo thing... :icon_scratch:
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No worries Tony. Really nice work!
Chuck
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Tony,
Nice work ! Not cost effective though like you said. Still might be worth looking into having them made up .
Loren
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Does anyone have an original set of brackets for sale?
I want to contact Mike G. to see if he can make these, but if the project doesn't turn out, I also need a set.
Thanks.