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General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Super65lark on October 22, 2018, 11:21:44 PM
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First question: Were heater hoses going to the heater core secured with single wire constant tension clamps, or the band style (constant tension)
Next question: Was it original to have the supply to the heater core a red color, or were they both black? And, how were they secured? My supply line was resting on a valve cover and finally burned through.
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The hoses were both black. Originally, they were molded hoses shaped so they would not rub on the valve cover, but those are non-existent now. Mark Ascher has more info on the molded hoses--he actually has one of them, but he has been looking for the other one for over 20 years with no success.
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There are corvette heater hoses that get you very close to original. If you search the forum a part number should be available. seems to me it was 68-82 vette with air conditioning.
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There are corvette heater hoses that get you very close to original. If you search the forum a part number should be available. seems to me it was 68-82 vette with air conditioning.
These?
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Corvette Central also has the same hoses without the logos but with ribs for $34.00. Part number 453043 .
Dan
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68-82 vette with air conditioning.
So would these work for our 65's withOUT a/c? 300 and 401?
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Think so. All you want is the molded angle and sizes.
Dan
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They would be for no AC. My car has one original moulded hose, and an off the shelf moulded hose that was the closest that could be found that would work - found by Brian. I recall it is a Ford hose. I also included a pic of Rob's engine, the hoses on it are just parts store bulk hose, but can be made to look passable with minimal effort. There needs to be an "S" bend on the firewall end for them to fit well. The front side is not critical.
I have the original part number for the larger heater hose, but have never found one.
Mark
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Good stuff guys. I did find out the hard way about hoses resting on the valve cover so I'll make sure that's corrected.
I do believe the single wire spring clamp is the original as I found it lodged between the heater core & firewall. Also found out the hard way there about crappy worm gear clamps.
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They would be for no AC. My car has one original moulded hose, and an off the shelf moulded hose that was the closest that could be found that would work - found by Brian. I recall it is a Ford hose.
Thanks, Mark.
Brain - any insight on this Ford hose? Thanks!
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I checked at my hardware store and they do not have spring clamps.
Are these available at auto stores? I'd fear asking for something like that at autozone/oreilly. Napa or carquest?
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Those clamps will have to be ordered from one of the catalogers. All the big resellers have them, Year One etc.
Dan, I?ll see if I can scrounge the part number of the hose.
Mark
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There are corvette heater hoses that get you very close to original. If you search the forum a part number should be available. seems to me it was 68-82 vette with air conditioning.
These?
no, these.
https://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corvette-heater-hose-kit-with-air-conditioning-small-block-and-big-block-1968-1982.html (https://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corvette-heater-hose-kit-with-air-conditioning-small-block-and-big-block-1968-1982.html)
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Right. I found the correct clamps at classic muscle. Some used original Corbin (that's the name of the spring clamp) pliers on ebay. See how this goes.
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There are corvette heater hoses that get you very close to original. If you search the forum a part number should be available. seems to me it was 68-82 vette with air conditioning.
These?
no, these.
https://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corvette-heater-hose-kit-with-air-conditioning-small-block-and-big-block-1968-1982.html (https://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corvette-heater-hose-kit-with-air-conditioning-small-block-and-big-block-1968-1982.html)
Alright, I'm confused lol.
What is the best part number for Eckler's?
And the hoses of the same for us Buick folks regardless if a/c or non a/c, right?
Thanks!
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For what I'm understanding so far it's the Eckler's Corvette Heater Hoses 1968-82 Part # 25-253203-1 @ $31.99 kit. It's a ribbed hose with no writing on them. If it's not these hoses would please post and let us know because i plan on getting a few sets and so are many members reading this site. :icon_thumright:
Tony
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For what I'm understanding so far it's the Eckler's Corvette Heater Hoses 1968-82 Part # 25-253203-1 @ $31.99 kit. It's a ribbed hose with no writing on them. If it's not these hoses would please post and let us know because i plan on getting a few sets and so are many members reading this site. :icon_thumright:
Tony
Yes, that's what i ordered. They are a really close match.
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There are corvette heater hoses that get you very close to original. If you search the forum a part number should be available. seems to me it was 68-82 vette with air conditioning.
These?
no, these.
https://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corvette-heater-hose-kit-with-air-conditioning-small-block-and-big-block-1968-1982.html (https://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corvette-heater-hose-kit-with-air-conditioning-small-block-and-big-block-1968-1982.html)
Alright, I'm confused lol.
What is the best part number for Eckler's?
And the hoses of the same for us Buick folks regardless if a/c or non a/c, right?
Thanks!
The 25-253203-1 is what i ordered. I cannot speak to correctness on a non AC car, but they are really close to the originals from what i have heard and can tell.
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Thanks BUICK_65 for clearing that up. We all thank you. :icon_salut: Tony
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Thanks BUICK_65 for clearing that up. We all thank you. :icon_salut: Tony
You bet. I am glad to be able to contribute a little something after all that i have gained from this forum/group. Great bunch of folks here with tons of knowledge.
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Great bunch of information and I'll be ordering those hoses. I also looked in the assembly manual to see what the correct hose clamps might be and see that they used both styles. I attached a photo that shows correct placement of the hoses and the two different style hose clamps used in 1965. Thanks to all you guys for all the information over the years.
Regards,
Ron
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Thanks for the photo Ron. :thumbsup: Tony
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A few things:
Ron, I only see the corbin spring there..?
I was at the very last car show of the season today (btw 83F @beach) and not only did I not see ANY correct hose clamps, I did not see any Skylarks, Specials or other 60s Buicks. So that's a testament to just how rare our cars are.
I've only shown once, and I wouldn't necessarily do it for myself, but just so other people can see the Buick! There really are so few. There eas a woody wagon, a super 8, and that was it. A whole lot of Barracudas (60s) strangely.
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Look in the middle of the drawing on the right side. There's a diagram of the two different clamps. It's a "forest for the trees" thing....
Chuck
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Thanks, Super65lark and Buick_65.
Ordered a set. :glasses9:
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Dear Iain and owners of rare cars,
I was at the very last car show of the season today (btw 83F @beach) and not only did I not see ANY correct hose clamps, I did not see any Skylarks, Specials or other 60s Buicks. So that's a testament to just how rare our cars are.
I've only shown once, and I wouldn't necessarily do it for myself, but just so other people can see the Buick! There really are so few. There eas a woody wagon, a super 8, and that was it. A whole lot of Barracudas (60s) strangely.
Sadly your observations are consistent with others. The Orinda Classic Car show typically would have 4-5 Buicks and is now down to only 2. When we have the time and means we should try to get our cars to shows to get the word out that Buicks are rare and worth preserving!
Cheers, Edouard :occasion14:
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I used the aftermarket tower clamps on my heater hoses and had a problem with the one on the manifold leaking so I replaced it with an aviation screw type to stop it leaking. The aftermarket tower clamps aren't the best quality but the real problem was the fitting being corroded and pitted. I take my car to several of the local car shows and being I only live less than 30 miles from where it was built in Flint Michigan I seldom see another 64 or 65 at the shows. Most people walk right by my car to look at the hot rods, Camaro's, Chevelle's Mustang's and 70's GS's, there's lots of those. I try to go to all the local shows because I love to drive the car and it's something I really like to do rather than something I should be doing, it's always interesting to see the cars and talk to other car people. You would think that the first year of the Gran Sport would be more appreciated but I can't even find a model of one. It's a good thing that this web site exists to show a real appreciation for these great cars and the people that keep them going.
Ron
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:thumbsup:
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In case anyone does not know, the spring clamp is called Corbin. These are the pliers.