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Drivetrain => Transmissions => Topic started by: wildcat65 on November 08, 2017, 02:38:31 PM
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OK People- I hate the sloppy action of the original type shifter.
What do I need from Hurst to operate my T-10 properly?
I have seen ones sold here and V8Buick that were advertised as
65 specific - is this available new or am I in search of unobtanium .... again :icon_scratch:
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You can buy a Hurst shifter specifically for the 65 GS, I did and it works perfect. I even bought an adapter to retain the stock shifter handle.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/huu-3917308 (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/huu-3917308)
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Went with that shifter also but used this shifter handle https://www.luttyschevy.com/i-20839480-shift-handle-hurst-body.html (https://www.luttyschevy.com/i-20839480-shift-handle-hurst-body.html) thanks to a tip from Chuck Miller.
Dan
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Dan
Do you have a picture with that shifter installed?
Tom
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Yes, but am having trouble posting it. Will send it via email.
Dan
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Re-sizing is a pain and the quality goes away.
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I installed the Hurst shifter in my restoration. Here are the details of the parts required. I didn't buy the Summit kit since I didn't want the standard Hurst shift lever and was going to use my original shifter ball.
Hurst 3915403 Shifter: https://www.hurstshiftersonline.com/productcart/pc/New-Hurst-3915403-Speed-Replacement-Shifter-Mechanism-Muncie-Borg-Warner-50p296.htm (https://www.hurstshiftersonline.com/productcart/pc/New-Hurst-3915403-Speed-Replacement-Shifter-Mechanism-Muncie-Borg-Warner-50p296.htm) $249.95
Hurst 3734734 Installation Kit: https://www.hurstshiftersonline.com/productcart/pc/Hurst-Comp-4-Speed-shifter-Kit-Chevy-Pontiac-Studebaker-410-BW-T10-28p258.htm (https://www.hurstshiftersonline.com/productcart/pc/Hurst-Comp-4-Speed-shifter-Kit-Chevy-Pontiac-Studebaker-410-BW-T10-28p258.htm) $187.24
If you have backup lights, you'll also need the bracket and switch:
Backup light switch: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-66-Buick-Pontiac-Backup-Light-Switch-Assembly-4-Speed/271758082785?hash=item3f460b42e1:g:O94AAOSwbYZXUNN0&vxp=mtr (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-66-Buick-Pontiac-Backup-Light-Switch-Assembly-4-Speed/271758082785?hash=item3f460b42e1:g:O94AAOSwbYZXUNN0&vxp=mtr) $59.00
Backup light switch bracket: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-Backup-Lights-Switch-Bracket-T-10-Trans-55-72/350404239913?hash=item5195b86229:m:mIYJbW-bSmirkeTnmUWG1Lg&vxp=mtr (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-Backup-Lights-Switch-Bracket-T-10-Trans-55-72/350404239913?hash=item5195b86229:m:mIYJbW-bSmirkeTnmUWG1Lg&vxp=mtr) $49.95
And Dan already posted the link to the Muncie look-alike shift lever from Lutty's Chevy. Thanks to Brian Stone for this tip!
Cheers!
Chuck
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Here's Dan's picture. Mine will look similar, except without the consolette.
Chuck
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I have the Hurst in mine too, way better shifting!
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Here's Dan's picture. Mine will look similar, except without the consolette.
Chuck
Thanks Chuck. My picture was coming up too big and after resizing was in a format the site didn’t care for.
Isn’t tech wonderful.
Dan
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How close does the repro handle match the original shift handle, in curve and height?
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The Hurst shifter body is positioned a little further back than the original.... did you guys have to modify your floor hump to make it fit?
Here's a web page showing the Chevelle/Impala shifter handles:
http://www.ebay.com/gds/64-67-Chevelle-shifter-ID-for-Muncie-Impala-Nova-/10000000001772598/g.html (http://www.ebay.com/gds/64-67-Chevelle-shifter-ID-for-Muncie-Impala-Nova-/10000000001772598/g.html)
There are repos avail of the original type shifter body and a thicker spacer plate to tighten up a loose shifter. More details in this thread:
http://65gs.com/board/index.php?topic=2566.msg16045#msg16045 (http://65gs.com/board/index.php?topic=2566.msg16045#msg16045)
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I installed the Hurst shifter in my restoration. Here are the details of the parts required. I didn't buy the Summit kit since I didn't want the standard Hurst shift lever and was going to use my original shifter ball.
Hurst 3915403 Shifter: [url]https://www.hurstshiftersonline.com/productcart/pc/New-Hurst-3915403-Speed-Replacement-Shifter-Mechanism-Muncie-Borg-Warner-50p296.htm[/url] ([url]https://www.hurstshiftersonline.com/productcart/pc/New-Hurst-3915403-Speed-Replacement-Shifter-Mechanism-Muncie-Borg-Warner-50p296.htm[/url]) $249.95
Hurst 3734734 Installation Kit: [url]https://www.hurstshiftersonline.com/productcart/pc/Hurst-Comp-4-Speed-shifter-Kit-Chevy-Pontiac-Studebaker-410-BW-T10-28p258.htm[/url] ([url]https://www.hurstshiftersonline.com/productcart/pc/Hurst-Comp-4-Speed-shifter-Kit-Chevy-Pontiac-Studebaker-410-BW-T10-28p258.htm[/url]) $187.24
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Chuck
Great info Chuck!
Car Craft did an article on installing a Hurst shifter in a 66 GS in the November 2001 issue. At the time, Hurst didn't have a listing for the T-10 in a GS, so the author did some sleuthing to find the correct parts.
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/installing-hurst-transmission-shifter/ (http://www.hotrod.com/articles/installing-hurst-transmission-shifter/)
For the complete shifter with handle, they used #391 7308. Same body as the one Chuck referenced to.
Install kit was the same #373 4734.
You can install an adapter into the Hurst shifter and use an original shift handle with this adapter from Auto Krafters:
http://www.autokrafters.com/p-7892-shift-lever-mount-adapter-2-inches.aspx (http://www.autokrafters.com/p-7892-shift-lever-mount-adapter-2-inches.aspx)
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I have installed a Hurst in a couple of 65's for other people before. The issue I had with the installation is with the head of the large bolt at the top that goes thru the pivot point and holds it to the mounting bracket. That bolt head hits the drivers side edge of the opening in the floor hump. Had to modify the edge of the hump and the trim ring around the shifter boot in the range of 1/4 to 3/8" to get it to clear.
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This is great- will proceed when I get a few Bolivanos ahead of the creditors!
Brian- would it help to lower the trans off the frame crossmember?
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Brian did tell me about the bolt, I ended up with a file and just reduced the thickness of the head. Worked fine.
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I have the Hurst in my convert. I used my original lever with the adapter often available on ebay. Mine actually went in easy but the hole in my hump is a slightly larger after some prior rust repairs. The benefit of using the adapter with the original lever is that I could use my original ball. Needless to say the shifting is superior to the muncie. One thing to note is that the lever sits a touch higher than original but when the car is sitting it just looks like it is in gear . The entire process was seamless and I am very happy with the adapter. I also filed the bolt a touch.
Rob
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I had to relocate the hole in the tunnel to accommodate the Hurst shifter. But my car didn't have a properly located shifter hole/hump to begin with since it was converted from an Automatic. So I located it by dimensions provided by others. Then, adding the Hurst shifter, I had to cut the hump on the driver's side to set the body on the frame. It works fine.
I also bought the adapter to use the Muncie shift handle with the Hurst shifter. But after reports of dissatisfaction with the height of the shift handle and ball, I took Brian's advice and bought the Hurst-compatible handle from Lutty's.
So, if anyone needs an adapter for the Muncie shift handle on the Hurst shifter, I have one available.
Chuck
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Chuck,
I have a use for the adaptor to put a factory shifter handle on a Hurst shifter mechanism if it is still available...
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Chuck,
I have a use for the adaptor to put a factory shifter handle on a Hurst shifter mechanism if it is still available...
Hi Brian,
It's still available. I'll email more info.
Chuck