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Classifieds => Part & Car Leads => Topic started by: elagache on October 29, 2017, 06:56:13 PM
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Dear mid-60s Buick "parts hounds,"
This evening's perusal of the eBay listings turned up this 1964-65 knob and bezel for either a convertible or a station wagon with an electric tailgate window:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-1965-buick-skylark-sportwagon-convertible-top-switch-back-window/202095154010 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-1965-buick-skylark-sportwagon-convertible-top-switch-back-window/202095154010)
As far as I can tell, this one is really tough shape for dash knobs in general. Are these 4th knobs so rare that sellers can command $75 for a knob in this condition?
A curious mind would like to know! :icon_scratch:
Cheers, Edouard :occasion14:
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I don't recall if the knob is particular to this switch. The switches are tough to come by though. They have a tendency to be in sad condition when from a convertible.
I'll have to look through the parts bins and dig one out to be sure.
Loren
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And if you find one, I might be interested. The plastic housing on mine doesn't seem to be real securely attached to the metal part. I'll have to test it to see if it's functioning properly.
Chuck
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That's the 1965 knob and bezel. (on ebay)
The 1964 knob face is flat, as is the bezel ring with serrated edges. (see my 64 dash parts below)
Switch is the same for a couple of years.
(My dash, before I made it purtiful again...)
(http://www.wootmonkey.com/upload/2016/11/28/20161128161143-c4d8d62b.png)
And after some Oil of Olay.
(http://www.wootmonkey.com/_data/i/upload/2017/10/30/20171030075501-f5933588-me.png)
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Dear Loren, Chuck, Michael, and mid-60s Buick "parts hounds,"
Thanks for the info. Fortunately, all the knobs in my trusty wagon were in relatively good shape for their age.
That's the 1965 knob and bezel. (on ebay)
Thanks for the clarification - I certainly wouldn't have known!
(My dash, before I made it purtiful again...)
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And after some Oil of Olay.
Very nice! :hello2: Once more demonstrating my ignorance, but what model and year of Buick did your steering wheel come from?
Cheers, Edouard :occasion14:
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1964 Skylark convertible.
I am not 100% sure of the wheel, but I am thinking maybe 1961-62 Skylark. It is very close to my 64 wheel. Mine was in very sad shape. This one is in great shape except the color yellowing. So, it gets the blue leather grip, and that helps these old hands. Besides, I figure the white knuckles will go nicely with the blue leather, when I stomp on the skinny pedal.
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Finished dash looks very nice.
So ... getting back to the original question. The knob for the power top OR the power rear SW window is the same knob as is used on the radio.
I guess my point is that the knob doesn't make so much the $$, but more so the switch.
I've attached a picture of an original switch. It is difficult to see the flat area on the stem.
Loren
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And if you find one, I might be interested. The plastic housing on mine doesn't seem to be real securely attached to the metal part. I'll have to test it to see if it's functioning properly.
Chuck
Chuck,
Testing the switch is a good idea. A digital Volt- Ohm meter should give you a good idea of the internal contact condition.
As for the plastic portion of the switch being loose on the metal portion, It can be re-staked to tighten it up. If the readings are more then a few tenths of an Ohm, it may be best to carefully open the switch and clean the internal contacts. Then re-stake it.
Loren
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Dear mid-60s Buick "parts hounds,"
This evening's perusal of the eBay listings turned up this 1964-65 knob and bezel for either a convertible or a station wagon with an electric tailgate window:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-1965-buick-skylark-sportwagon-convertible-top-switch-back-window/202095154010 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-1965-buick-skylark-sportwagon-convertible-top-switch-back-window/202095154010)
As far as I can tell, this one is really tough shape for dash knobs in general. Are these 4th knobs so rare that sellers can command $75 for a knob in this condition?
A curious mind would like to know! :icon_scratch:
Cheers, Edouard :occasion14:
Picture from eBay listing.
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And if you find one, I might be interested. The plastic housing on mine doesn't seem to be real securely attached to the metal part. I'll have to test it to see if it's functioning properly.
Chuck
Chuck,
Testing the switch is a good idea. A digital Volt- Ohm meter should give you a good idea of the internal contact condition.
As for the plastic portion of the switch being loose on the metal portion, It can be re-staked to tighten it up. If the readings are more then a few tenths of an Ohm, it may be best to carefully open the switch and clean the internal contacts. Then re-stake it.
Loren
I did test the switch and it only had continuity in one direction. So I took it apart, cleaned all the contacts (and observed some wear), then put dielectric grease on the contacts, put it back together and restaked it. I now have continuity for both up and down on the switch, so went ahead and assembled it into the instrument cluster.
Sure would be nice to have a spare laying around in case one of the switches on the two convertibles dies. If I knew the one on ebay was good, I might be tempted.....
Chuck
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Chuck,
Yes a spare would be good to have around. But as you discovered, they can be taken apart, cleaned and reassembled.
Maybe an NOS switch or one that has been serviced would be in the $75 area. :dontknow:
Loren
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Make a good fair offer.
You can make three offers (if they refuse them) but you will still be able to "Buy it Now".
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Refurbished dash with refurbished top switch. When I receive the LED bulbs for the instrument panel and radio I will install them in the dash. That will really feel like progress!
Chuck
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That really looks great!
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Nice looking colors Chuck.
Dan
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Dear Michael, Loren, Chuck, and mid-60s Buick "detail oriented types,"
I am not 100% sure of the wheel, but I am thinking maybe 1961-62 Skylark. It is very close to my 64 wheel. Mine was in very sad shape. This one is in great shape except the color yellowing.
Thanks, I was curious of how you solved the worn-out steering wheel problem. It is a novel solution I hadn't seen before.
So ... getting back to the original question. The knob for the power top OR the power rear SW window is the same knob as is used on the radio.
Well I hate to disagree, but while the knob is identical, the bezel does have that unique 'up' and 'down' indications. They are plain as day on the eBay listing photo. Now I agree that paying $75 for a knob and bezel probably isn't worth it, but Biquette's knob is in good condition and I appreciate having that knob right where it is if for no other reason for the memories it brings:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Biquette/Drive-Train-makeover/Reassembly-of-Speedometer-and/i-KJJ8nDn/0/eeccb096/XL/IMG_2968-XL.jpg) (https://canebas.smugmug.com/Biquette/Drive-Train-makeover/Reassembly-of-Speedometer-and/i-KJJ8nDn/A)
I guess my point is that the knob doesn't make so much the $$, but more so the switch.
Okay, I see your point, but of course Biquette has been a very good girl, so her switch was in just as good a shape as the knob!
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Biquette/Drive-Train-makeover/Reassembly-of-Speedometer-and/i-rpsfpMx/0/37e9a625/XL/IMG_2969-XL.jpg) (https://canebas.smugmug.com/Biquette/Drive-Train-makeover/Reassembly-of-Speedometer-and/i-rpsfpMx/A)
My parents were smokers in my youth and replacing the cigarette lighter jack was something of a struggle, but that was the only thing I needed to replace on the dash cluster.
Such is the luxury of having a classic that has always gotten a lot of luv' . . . . . :love4:
Refurbished dash with refurbished top switch.
Congrats! :hello2: That does look very nice and indeed, you started from a car in much rougher shape than my wagon. (http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Forum_support_documents/Custom_emoticons/wink_smile_triangle.gif). . . The only thing I don't understand is how you plan to load 4'x8' sheets of plywood into your convertible! . . . (http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Forum_support_documents/Custom_emoticons/Laughing_LOL.gif)
Cheers, Edouard :occasion14:
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Thanks for the positive comments on the dash refurb! As with all projects on the car, a "labor of love". :love4:
Dan, the Krylon Matte Black turned out nicely, in my opinion. About the right sheen with a rich look.
Chuck
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Dear Chuck and mid-60s Buick laborers of Love, . . . .
As with all projects on the car, a "labor of love". :love4:
Ain't that the truth!
Dan, the Krylon Matte Black turned out nicely, in my opinion. About the right sheen with a rich look.
I wish I had known about that paint! I ended up "rolling" my own blend of black from model railroad colors and applying it with an air-brush. That was quite a hassle!
Cheers, Edouard :occasion14:
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SEM Tuxedo Black was what was used on my dash. The Krylon looks just as good and is 1/3 the price.
Dan