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General Discussion => Q & A => Topic started by: Polishmeatballpizza on April 16, 2016, 11:28:25 PM
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I was told by the previous owner it's a 301 motor, however, I read that Buick had a 300 CI motor. Also read that some Buick got the Pontiac 301. How can I tell which it is?
It has some rust, and wondering if I am getting in over my head. The front part of the conv top is rusted too. Can these be replaced easily?
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The buick 300 motor was used from 1964 to 67 .Look at some of the pics
In the gallery on this site! Or Google buick 300. The 301 was used in some later
Buicks .The floors and truck floor are repos ,they make a repo front header for the top.
The parts place and others carry these to!
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The buick 300 motor was used from 1964 to 67 .Look at some of the pics
In the gallery on this site! Or Google buick 300. The 301 was used in some later
Buicks .The floors and truck floor are repos ,they make a repo front header for the top.
The parts place and others carry these to!
Thanks! I'll check it out.
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More questions:
Front bench seat - I have one in the car, however, it is bent back, and I'm not sure if it can be repaired. Anyone have experience getting these fixed?
Also have some rust in the trunk where the body bolts to the frame. Could this be a serious problem?
I'll try and post some pics.
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Bent or tweaked seats can be a real challenge to get straight! Sometimes replacing them
Is less hassle! The rust in the trunk by the body mount is common! A replacement panel with the trunk floor attached is made just for this problem.
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First of all, welcome to the 65GS forum. Always good to have new enthusiasts join us.
I have a 65 Skylark parts car with a front bench seat. The upholstery is shot, but the frame is in good condition. Not easy to ship, but available. Where are you located?
Cheers!
Chuck
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First of all, welcome to the 65GS forum. Always good to have new enthusiasts join us.
I have a 65 Skylark parts car with a front bench seat. The upholstery is shot, but the frame is in good condition. Not easy to ship, but available. Where are you located?
Cheers!
Chuck
I am in South Orange County CA.
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Dear Polishmeatballpizza, gssizzler, Chuck, and mid-60s Buick fans,
Could you perhaps post some photos of your convertible? If you are worried about something, a picture is a lot easier to diagnose! You can attach digital photos using the "Additional Options" feature of the forum that is under the text entry box.
Cheers, Edouard
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I'll post more in a few...
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more pics
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more pics...
this is the trunk area, where the body bolts to the frame, I think.
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another pic...
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I'm wondering, do the aftermarket full-length floor pans come with provisions for seat-bolt mounting?
I think I'm going to need to cut off the seat bolts to get them out. They are so rusted, the shape of the bolt has diminished.
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Looks an awful lot like a 65 to me.
Special Deluxe? Post pics of the data plate on the firewall and VIN tag.
Welcome to 65GS.com... let us know your name, "Polishmeatballpizza" is pretty long.
Are you going to work on pieroge pizza next?
Mark
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Looks an awful lot like a 65 to me.
Special Deluxe? Post pics of the data plate on the firewall and VIN tag.
Mark
Agree with Mark, that's a 1965 Buick Special based on the front fenders and dash surround.
Welcome to the forum pizza man.
Dan
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I guess it is a 65, the PO kept mentioning, "64, registered as a 65".
BTW, my name is George.
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That is a base model special since it has the plastic dash surround instead of the full dash pad like a special deluxe or Skylark would. Looks like someone put the door panels, carpet, and seats out of Skylark in it. Base model special would have had rubber mat and more plain looking seats. The data tag says the model number starts with 434, which means it is a Special.
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That is a base model special since it has the plastic dash surround instead of the full dash pad like a special deluxe or Skylark would. Looks like someone put the door panels, carpet, and seats out of Skylark in it. Base model special would have had rubber mat and more plain looking seats. The data tag says the model number starts with 434, which means it is a Special.
Is that a bad thing, that it's a Buick Special? Skylarks are higher value?
What else can you guys tell me from the data plate?
Wondering if I got ripped off? I didn't really know anything about Skylarks or Specials when I looked at it, I just wanted another classic to get working on.
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Looks to be a '65 Special with a few Skylark items thrown in. '64 glove box lock was in the dash above the glove box door. Early '65 by the down flow radiator.
Looks to be a manual top, don't see the switch on the dash. Skylark had power top as standard equipment in '65.
Door panel and arm rest are '65 Skylark, seat adjuster knob is '64.
Not a bad thing, just interesting
The first "4" of the "434" means it is a Buick, the "3" means it is a Special and the next "4" means it is a v8.
Which is what the engine appears to be, the 300 with the 2 barrel carb.
It also has the Skylark trim on the outside. That was an option to the Special.
Loren
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Looks to be a '65 Special with a few Skylark items thrown in. '64 glove box lock was in the dash above the glove box door. Early '65 by the down flow radiator.
Looks to be a manual top, don't see the switch on the dash. Skylark had power top as standard equipment in '65.
Door panel and arm rest are '65 Skylark, seat adjuster knob is '64. Interesting
Loren
It is a manual top. He gave me power unit for the top.
It's still a nice car, right? Or at least can be some day.
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Yes it is and will be a nice car , seems to me that not enough Specials are being saved.
It was built the fourth week of December '64. The 028 means it had a black vinyl seats bench style.
Kansas assembly plant. Red with a black top [R-1].
Loren
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Yes it is and will be a nice car , seems to me that not enough Specials are being saved.
It was built the fourth week of December '64. The 028 means it had a black vinyl seats bench style.
Kansas assembly plant. Red with a black top [R-1].
Loren
Is it taboo to go with a different color top/interior? Or, are these cars better left original? I don't mind the black top and seats too much, just thought that tan might go better with it. The tan probably wouldn't get as hot as the black, sitting out in the sun.
The top that was on it, what was left of it, was white.
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65 convertible = very good!
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Any of you guys know if the floor pans come with mounting holes (threaded) for the seat bolts?
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George,
It's you car, go for it!
Mine was originally a white exterior with a red interior. It is Champagne Mist with a red interior and a red top.
Loren
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Any of you guys know if the floor pans come with mounting holes (threaded) for the seat bolts?
The full floor pan with the braces comes with seat belt mounting points that are threaded and the seat mount points also are threaded.
I didn't find half floor pans with threaded mounts
Loren
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The top that was on it, what was left of it, was white.
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My bad, "1" is white convertible top
Got a picture of the back?
Loren
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If you're installing bucket sets, mounting strips are available. They get welded to the top side of the floor.
I LIKE Specials! You can modify them a bit without the purists criticizing you for decreasing their value.
If you are buying/restoring this car to resell for a profit, it's not the best choice.
If you want to build something to personalize and enjoy for yourself, it's a great car to start with. Build it how you want!
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Dear Mark, Dan, George, Brian, Loren,
Yes it is and will be a nice car , seems to me that not enough Specials are being saved.
Well, I'm doing my part to save one Special wagon!! :hello2:
Kansas assembly plant. Red with a black top [R-1].
Bummer, I was hoping it was another Fremont, CA car so it could be a sister to my wagon! :love4:
Looks like you've got an interesting project George! Take your time but make the effort to make that convertible - YOURS!!
Cheers, Edouard :occasion14:
P.S. Does it seem to be a "he" or "she" convertible? Any names coming to mind? . . . . . :angel4:
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My '66 Special....
It's not restored to original... it's better!
300 V8, added a 4 bbl intake, dual exhaust, Richmond 5 speed trans, fast-ratio steering box, fat swaybar, and disk brakes. Great driving car.
I just call it my 'Special'. It's an it, not a he or she! Some people say 'nice Chevelle'.... yeah, whatever, thanks. :drunken_smilie:
The '72 SS' license plate was just stupid (bad) luck.... or maybe a wise guy at the DMV....
Built it 'my way'.
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My '66 Special....
It's not restored to original... it's better!
300 V8, added a 4 bbl intake, dual exhaust, Richmond 5 speed trans, fast-ratio steering box, fat swaybar, and disk brakes. Great driving car.
I just call it my 'Special'. It's an it, not a he or she! Some people say 'nice Chevelle'.... yeah, whatever, thanks. :drunken_smilie:
The '72 SS' license plate was just stupid (bad) luck.... or maybe a wise guy at the DMV....
Built it 'my way'.
Nice!
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The top that was on it, what was left of it, was white.
My bad, "1" is white convertible top
Got a picture of the back?
Loren
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The back end is definitely Special Deluxe with the chrome panel between the taillights. Kinda confusing since Special Deluxe should have had the full padded dash that extends over the glove box area. Base model special would look like this in the rear with the basic taillights and no chrome panel between them.
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The padded dash would be a option not standard ,my special deluxe did have the full dash and a buddies car did not!
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That answers that then! It is a Special Deluxe. I have never come across a special Deluxe without the full padded dash, so was not aware that was an option.
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Dear Walt, George, Brian, Jon, and mid-60s Buick caregivers,
My '66 Special....
It's not restored to original... it's better!
300 V8, added a 4 bbl intake, dual exhaust, Richmond 5 speed trans, fast-ratio steering box, fat swaybar, and disk brakes. Great driving car.
Looks great Walt! :thumbsup: I need to also upgrade the steering and suspension on my wagon as you have.
I just call it my 'Special'. It's an it, not a he or she! Some people say 'nice Chevelle'.... yeah, whatever, thanks. :drunken_smilie:
(http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Forum_support_documents/Custom_emoticons/wink.gif) . . . Awe shucks Walt, that won't due! Once all cars become self-driving, how can you ask your car to come to you if it doesn't have a name! . . . :overthetop:
The '72 SS' license plate was just stupid (bad) luck.... or maybe a wise guy at the DMV....
Built it 'my way'.
That's not very nice indeed. I suppose you couldn't ask for another plate.
The padded dash would be a option not standard ,my special deluxe did have the full dash and a buddies car did not!
I didn't know that either. I thought I had a price sheet for the Special and it doesn't list the padded dash, but it was a late recreation, so that doesn't surprise me.
Does anybody have an authentic list of options for any of the mid-60s Buick A-bodies? I'd be curious to know what they look like.
George, I hope you are comfortable with your car's revealed identity!
Cheers, Edouard :occasion14: