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Drivetrain => The Nailhead => Topic started by: Rollaround on January 22, 2016, 06:26:18 PM
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After a long delay I'm finally ready to pull the engine on the red car. I was going to pull the engine and trany at once but decided to remove the trany first.
This is my first time pulling a Nailhead, so I'm wondering what guys typically use as sling attachment points. I was planing on attaching the sling chain's to the back of the head's at the firewall and using the upper bolts on the of the manifold that runs from head to head.
I did leave the exhaust manifolds on.
Thanks in advance.
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That's where I use for lift points. I also have an engine leveler that allows for changing the angle on the engine.
Good luck with it,
Loren
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I used Brian's recommended technique, removing the intake manifold and attaching chains used those manifold bolts. Thread: http://65gs.com/board/index.php?topic=2246.0 (http://65gs.com/board/index.php?topic=2246.0)
My painter likes to use a carb adapter plate, as shown by Dr Frankenbuick in the referenced thread. Apparently both work well. Pictures below.
Let us know how it went!
Chuck
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If you have the trans out and hood removed, then the carb plate is the way to go. I would use carb studs with nuts rather than bolts. If you have power steering, disconnect hoses at the box and pull the pump mounted in place. Pretty easy job.
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Thanks sharing your experience. We used a combination of suggested methods. The front chains were fastened to the upper water manifold bolts, we had to use the aft intake manifold bolt positions for the rear straps as I couldn't get bolts started in the back of the head. Vinnie stopped by and most of the work, I just spilled transmission and anti-freeze fluids everywhere.
I have renamed the starter, drivers side exhaust manifold and the guy that designed that set-up.
Anyway, engines out and on the stand and we still have all our fingers.
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I have renamed the starter, drivers side exhaust manifold and the guy that designed that set-up.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Mark
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I have renamed the starter, drivers side exhaust manifold and the guy that designed that set-up.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Mark
Don't think they are printable on this site. LOL
LOVE that ships clock on the wall !! At least that's what I think it is. Where do I get one ?
Dan
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One of my Mini-Starters will solve the starter dilemma.
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I have renamed the starter, drivers side exhaust manifold and the guy that designed that set-up.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Mark
Don't think they are printable on this site. LOL
LOVE that ships clock on the wall !! At least that's what I think it is. Where do I get one ?
Dan
Dans correct, I won't go into to many details, however, the new name does make reference to their family ancestry. Dan that clock is an old aviation navigation training aid. Sorry, it's a one of one.
telriv, tell me more, I'm interested. I'd hate to put this thing back together and have starter problems. Feel free to post here or send me a pm.
The engine is not original to the car although it appears to have been in there for sometime, it's an LT engine but I can't explain the color it looks like an Oldsmobile color.
I did remove the exhaust manifolds today, great news all 16 bolts came out without snapping off.
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Dans correct, I won't go into to many details, however, the new name does make reference to their family ancestry. Dan that clock is an old aviation navigation training aid. Sorry, it's a one of one.
telriv, tell me more, I'm interested. I'd hate to put this thing back together and have starter problems. Feel free to post here or send me a pm.
Boo-Hoo. On the other hand, can vouch for telriv's mini starters.
Dan
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1st. Thanks Dan for the positive words about my Mini's. I'm sure there are others ALSO who are pleased. Honestly there have been some problems, but NONE to do with the actual starter itself.
While the manifolds are off get the mating surfaces re-surfaced & DON'T USE GASKETS & install the "French Locks".
The Mini's are $319.00 + shipping which fit in a medium "Flat Rate Box". I believe the cost is $15.00 now that USPS has raised the rates. They are 6lbs. 12ozs. Don't sound like a Mini-Starter & fit with headers unlike some others who say theirs do. In stock ready for shipping.
Tom T.
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Thanks for your quick reply Tom. I'm going to open this engine up for inspection, depending on what I find it may or may not go back in the car. If it goes back in, I'll want a mini starter.
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Forgot to mention. When having the manifold sealing surfaces finished I don't mean a belt sander. Leaves the surfaces not true & rounded off. The ONLY proper way is to have them cut on the head re-surfacing machine. In my area costs around $225.00.
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Forgot to mention. When having the manifold sealing surfaces finished I don't mean a belt sander. Leaves the surfaces not true & rounded off. The ONLY proper way is to have them cut on the head re-surfacing machine. In my area costs around $225.00.
What's your location Tom?
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Connecticut
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Rollaround, as we talked about, I replaced the starter on my 65 with one of Toms starters about 4-5 years ago and have no problems. When I replaced the headers with the stock manifolds it looks like the starter will come out of the car with no problems, unlike the stock starter that will not come out without getting the manifold loose from the head. I must say, other them fluid running out of everything, the removal went well.
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Anyone have a source for the rivets used on the drivers side exhaust manifold to hold the starter heat-shield in place?
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Check with a GM dealer. They should have the rivets that attach the tin heat shields to the exhaust manifolds. Or maybe some place like NAPA?
Loren
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Anyone have a source for the rivets used on the drivers side exhaust manifold to hold the starter heat-shield in place?
It's called a 'drive screw'.
Avail from industrial suppliers such as MSC, Graingers, McMaster-Carr, Fastenal, etc.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#drive-screws/=10uycur (http://www.mcmaster.com/#drive-screws/=10uycur)
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Thanks Walt, I just used them a couple years ago and couldn't remember were I got them, gosh I hate that. OK I'm off to Fastenal. More latter!