65GS.com - Buick Gran Sport Enthusiasts!

General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: GranSportSedan on August 01, 2015, 01:39:45 PM

Title: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: GranSportSedan on August 01, 2015, 01:39:45 PM
this car isn't far from me. i'm a sucker for post cars and this one being a 3 speed only draws me in more. obviously the car needs everything but is supposed to be rust free. I will probably end up over paying for it  but they aren't getting any easier to find

Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: Loren At 65GS on August 01, 2015, 02:36:56 PM
Still have the engine and trans?


  Loren
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: GranSportSedan on August 01, 2015, 02:51:41 PM

yes, he has everything from what he tells me.. waiting on pictures to be sure.. says a few pieces of trim are missing and the original front seats are gone
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: GS66 on August 01, 2015, 04:03:12 PM
Good luck!
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: Loren At 65GS on August 01, 2015, 04:09:49 PM

yes, he has everything from what he tells me.. waiting on pictures to be sure.. says a few pieces of trim are missing and the original front seats are gone

Sweet, front seats are no problem.

I think I may have at least 3 extra sets.  Imagine you can find some closer though.


  Loren
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: GranSportSedan on August 01, 2015, 06:08:09 PM
well we are a ways apart on price.. he is asking $9000 and I don't think it's worth near that much in current condition..what's your opinion on a reasonable price? keep in mind the car needs everything
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: bobbybuick on August 01, 2015, 07:03:49 PM
i gave 55 for mine and think i overpaid .i would say he is a bit off .i would say 4-6 would be in the range
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: Mark Ascher on August 01, 2015, 08:42:53 PM
If it's "rust free" and all there, about half the 9K is about what it's worth. My opinion.
I would expect a 65 GS car to run & drive at that asking price.
I have seen a few pretty nice 65 GS cars sell for about 5-10K more than that just this year.
Those cars did not need paint, interior work or engine rebuilds.

Mark
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: Loren At 65GS on August 01, 2015, 08:43:42 PM
From the three pictures you posted, it looks solid. But it appears to be sitting on an unpaved area with a tarp over the car. That can trap moisture and cause rust in areas not normally found. I suggest looking at the frame closely.

 As you may be aware, door panels are not reproduced and difficult to come by. Keep that in mind.
Looks to need a complete dash wiring harness.

I'd agree that is a bit steep for a non running car missing parts. Just an opinion.

 Loren
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: bobbybuick on August 01, 2015, 08:57:54 PM
also the condition of all the chrome ,pot metal, and interior parts come into play.for me i look at the parts rather then the car to see what it would take to complete the project.... tail lights could cost 1000 dollars to replace
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: GranSportSedan on August 01, 2015, 09:06:03 PM
you guys are thinking the same as me...probably $5000 if all the hard to find stuff is present.  i'd buy a decent 4 door car to donate some of the trim and dash stuff..  right now the car has a small block in it but he is removing that and sending me pics of all the parts and more of the car...
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: GranSportSedan on August 03, 2015, 07:57:15 PM
ok 65 Gurus, I need some assistance on real value for this car. it's a true 3 speed thin pillar coupe BUT it needs everything. correct engine is there in pieces, correct trans and manual trans clutch linkage is there. attached are a few pics he sent me. the car is 3 hours away and if he's not even remotely reasonable on price vs value I wont make the drive to look closer.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b131/gransportsedan/unnamed_zps9tniaj9t.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/user/gransportsedan/media/unnamed_zps9tniaj9t.jpg.html)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b131/gransportsedan/toploader_zpscd8sbjaw.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/user/gransportsedan/media/toploader_zpscd8sbjaw.jpg.html)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b131/gransportsedan/console%20gs_zpsqz6ymmbf.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/user/gransportsedan/media/console%20gs_zpsqz6ymmbf.jpg.html)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b131/gransportsedan/block_zpsnzgd0csj.jpg) (http://s18.photobucket.com/user/gransportsedan/media/block_zpsnzgd0csj.jpg.html)
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: bobbybuick on August 03, 2015, 09:06:28 PM
4 grand
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: GS66 on August 03, 2015, 09:07:10 PM
For me the issue would be how much will it cost to finish the car. My guess for price would be $2500-$4000 for this project. It really should be on the low end. I'm no expert though. Good luck!
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: Mark Ascher on August 03, 2015, 09:20:20 PM
4K tops.
Bob is thinking about it the way I am. What will it take to do it to the level you want.
With additional expenditure of 12-16K, financially you will be nearing underwater.
A 3 speed post car is a rarity. Something doesn't look quite right with the clutch linkage
off the bell housing, maybe just bad eyesight.

Mark
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: GranSportSedan on August 03, 2015, 09:49:58 PM
yes I agree about the odd looking pivot on the bell housing linkage.. isn't that supposed to be a ball shape there?  I was thinking if the car were truly rust free and ALL the hard to find parts were present it might be worth 5K but that's a big maybe.
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: WkillGS on August 04, 2015, 12:35:06 AM
well we are a ways apart on price.. he is asking $9000 and I don't think it's worth near that much in current condition..what's your opinion on a reasonable price? keep in mind the car needs everything


For comparison, there's a decent 4 speed car in Vermont for $14k. Show him the ad:
http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/5136118956.html (http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/5136118956.html)
He's likely ill-informed and thinks a GS is worth double the going rate.

And Joe65Skylark on here and V8 would sell his 4 speed post car for around 10k. I believe the chassis is done. Body shell was soda blasted and primed. Needs assembly.
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: gssizzler on August 04, 2015, 02:00:22 AM
Door panels are very hard to find,is the rear seat in good
Condition? Post only !and not easy to find! All new wiring
Harnesses will cost you over a thousand dollars! The post
We are working on came with all new harnesses and rebuilt
Motor ,nailheads are not cheap to rebuild! Is the rear end correct?
We had to build one $1200, but it is correct 65 with a
3.23 four pin posi! 65's are rare and a 3 speed post even rarer
But they don't bring anything close to what a GTO would bring!
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: GranSportSedan on August 04, 2015, 08:56:02 AM
yeah I think you guys are correct. this car is a basket case. i'm going to steer clear.
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: WkillGS on August 04, 2015, 09:09:22 AM
He's not going to find a buyer at his asking price!
Make him a firm, reasonable offer.... and wait.
Meanwhile, keep your eyes open for a parts car.
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: GranSportSedan on November 16, 2015, 08:17:02 PM
just an FYI for you guys, I made an offer of $5000 twice for the post car which given the condition is a very fair price and he didn't bother to respond.
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: WkillGS on November 17, 2015, 12:33:27 AM
Bob, did you see Brandon's (sodak) car for sale? It's a thin pillar and was a 3 speed.
Disassembled, but you know how to put them back together!
http://65gs.com/board/index.php?topic=2515.0 (http://65gs.com/board/index.php?topic=2515.0)
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: Loren At 65GS on November 17, 2015, 08:28:33 AM
Bob, did you see Brandon's (sodak) car for sale? It's a thin pillar and was a 3 speed.
Disassembled, but you know how to put them back together!
[url]http://65gs.com/board/index.php?topic=2515.0[/url] ([url]http://65gs.com/board/index.php?topic=2515.0[/url])


I completed a deal with Brandon on that and plan to pick up this week. Unfortunately it does not come with the frame.   :sad1:

  Loren
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: WkillGS on November 17, 2015, 08:48:49 AM
Congrats Loren! Glad to hear it's going to a great home.
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: cwmcobra on November 17, 2015, 09:03:19 AM

I completed a deal with Brandon on that and plan to pick up this week. Unfortunately it does not come with the frame.   :sad1:

  Loren

Can you box a Skylark frame?  I know where one is available  :icon_thumright:

Chuck
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: Brian on November 17, 2015, 09:24:24 AM
Loren,
  Will this body get the frame you hauled home from NC?
Title: Re: eyeballing a 65 GS 3 speed thin pillar coupe
Post by: Loren At 65GS on November 17, 2015, 09:49:05 AM
"Can you box a Skylark frame?  I know where one is available  :icon_thumright:

Chuck"

I have a couple of Skylark frames here too.  I've thought it would be possible to box an open frame, using salvaged frame pieces from a bad boxed frame, rather then try to make something.  Would need to come up with the frame pieces to salvage.

"Loren,
  Will this body get the frame you hauled home from NC?"

That one is already in play for another project Brian.

 Loren