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Announcements => New Members / Bio's => Topic started by: RVA65GS on February 01, 2013, 07:38:48 AM
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Hello Everyone,
New member from Richmond, VA.
65 GS 3 speed, thin pillar.
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Welcome to the forum. Lots of information here. Nice to see another post car.
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Welcome to the world of 65GS.com
Car-Setting-Light come together for a really great photograph
Congratulations on the rare 3 speed coupe.
Is there anything you need?
Milton
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Welcome RVA65GS,
3-speed post!!! One of 405 ever built!!! Is the GS new to you or have you owned it for awhile. Great photo. :thumbsup:
John
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Thank you guys for the warm welcome.
Milton
I do need something. I'm looking for any source of concrete information on the Dearborn 3 speed. Specifically, I need a front bearing retainer. The throw out bearing sleeve is no longer attached to the retainer flange. The Ford (Top Loader) retainers have different measurements.
John
I've owned it since April, 2012. Sat in storage, near Salem, Oregon, for the last 25 years or so. Don't have a lot of documentation but I do have the Protect-O-Plate which I think is pretty cool.
-Joe
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RVA65GS
I am not a authority on the Dearborn 3 speed but this is a great place to ask.
The search function in the upper right hand corner of the Forum can also be very helpful for information already documented here.
Milton
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Welcome Joe!
Neat car, it's nice to see it find it's way here. It was briefly in the Philadelphia, Pa area (near me). Is that where you bought it from?
The front bearing retainer is PN 1373910, found in Group 4.353. It's official name is 'Drive Gear Housing Retainer'.
It's possible a Ford retainer can be modified to fit. I had to modify a Richmond 5 speed retainer to fit my '66. I had the flange turned down to fit the bellhousing, and had the shaft turned down to fit the Buick clutch release bearing. Maybe something can be modded to fit the GS.
I have a Ford 4 speed downstairs from my '67 Fairlane.... I'll take a look at it this weekend to see how it compares to my Buick 4 speed.
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I have a lathe in my garage and can help you out with the machining if you determine a Ford one can be modified to work.
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Thanks, for the info. Walt. Yeah same car. The person I bought it from sells a lot of stuff on eBay. He had a '63 Galaxie 427R convertible on there. I think bidding went to $95,000 and it didn't sell. A little out of my price range.
Thanks, Brian. I have a buddy here in town that can help me with machine work.
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Brian, are you located in VA?
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Hi,
Welcome aboard, good to see a nice post car, I got one about a year ago with help from Dan
Your bearing retainer should be easy to find from a knowledgeable trans shop you may have to modify one, if you need any measurements I have a trans sitting in my garage
Well nice car hope you've been putting some miles on her as the are fun to drive
Regards,
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Hi Joe,
Welcome to the forum! I like the five spokes. What are your plans for the car?
FYI - Brian lives near Charlotte.
Mark
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Very nice setting for your photo. :thumbsup: Welcome into our fine little group.
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this car was rescued from a wrecking yard in Dallas Oregon back in the 80's by my friend Alan, the engine was blown up so he installed a 63 or 64 wildcat engine. he ended up selling the car to a man in McMinnville oregon who played with the car for a few years before parking it in his barn while he ran his english car parts business. he had the engine rebuilt when he had the car. he sold the car to a flipper who promptly put it on Ebay and that is how i ended up with it. I replaced a rocker arm that had lost it's wear pad and installed the newer model AFB. the car was very powerful once tuned and would light up the tire easily from 20 mph in second gear. Nice to see it found a good home. I miss it and kinda wish i'd kept it.
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I miss it and kinda wish i'd kept it.
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I've been there and done that. More then once.
Loren
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Thanks for the history, GranSportSedan.
I've got the transmission out right now to replace the output shaft seal and front bearing retainer. I'm going to cut new fiber board for the door panels and work on restoring the rest interior, when funds allow.
The motor is a '63 and it does run pretty strong.
Thanks again. It's cool to hear stuff like this.
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I've got the transmission out right now to replace the output shaft seal and front bearing retainer.
Any luck finding the front bearing retainer?
I took a look at my Ford 4 speed toploader. The retainer has some differences from the 4 speed Buick trans. It's about a half inch shorter, has a larger OD where the release bearing rides, and it has a 1-1/16" input shaft instead of a 1-1/8" shaft. Bolt spacing is close, if not the same.
There may be more differences that would require disassembly to determine.
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Any luck finding the front bearing retainer?
I took a look at my Ford 4 speed toploader. The retainer has some differences from the 4 speed Buick trans. It's about a half inch shorter, has a larger OD where the release bearing rides, and it has a 1-1/16" input shaft instead of a 1-1/8" shaft. Bolt spacing is close, if not the same.
There may be more differences that would require disassembly to determine.
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Thanks for looking.
I'm going to try the Ford retainer for the small input shaft.
-Joe