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Drivetrain => Transmissions => Topic started by: 1965GSDOUG on October 26, 2011, 10:27:43 PM
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I am considering reproducing the '65 GS 4 Speed Upper Consolette Boot.
Does anyone else have them CORRECT?
Is anyone interested?
Doug
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I'm interested! :blob7:
If I'm not mistaken, the present ones avail are for the later rectangular shifter handle.
A correct non-console boot would be nice too. Jimmy said he was going to make some, but that was quite some time ago. :icon_scratch:
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I am defintely interested in one. Made out of the correct material would be nice too--the ones on the market now are slick, shiny, vinyl looking instead of rubber like the originals.
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I realize this is a really old thread, but just getting caught up on status. Seeing the lack of responses, I assume this didn't go anywhere?
I need one! Get in line, right? :laughing7:
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Very old and afraid Doug hasn't had much luck either. :crybaby2:
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Figures. Thanks for the update!
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I’ve emailed Metro to see if they can make their 67-72 upper consolette boot (for flat shifter handles) in a round shifter handle version correct for 65 and 66 (and hopefully not shiny). No promises - keep you posted on what they say.
Dan
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Thanks Dan. Hoping for success!
Chuck
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I’ve emailed Metro to see if they can make their 67-72 upper consolette boot (for flat shifter handles) in a round shifter handle version correct for 65 and 66 (and hopefully not shiny). No promises - keep you posted on what they say.
Dan
Got a response from Mike H. at Metro. They would be possibly interested, depending on demand. Here's the info we need to keep this potential project alive:
(1) Does this part fit any other year/make/model? Or it is just '65/'66 3/4 speed Skylarks & GS's with the consolette? What is the group and part number?
(2) Does anyone out there have an original to be used for the mold?
Any help on the above questions is much appreciated. Thanks!
Dan
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Dan,
It also fits the 67 4-speed models with console since they still used the round shifter handle.
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Dan,
I don't have one, but if someone has an original, it might help to know if they would get it returned intact or if it would be destroyed in the molding process. Any idea?
:cheers2:
Chuck
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Brian - noted. Thank you.
Chuck - I will ask. Thank you.
I really need clarity on the group and part number.
4.015 / 384431 is the LOWER boot, right?
1361008 is the upper consolette boot for 68-72, correct?
What is the group and part # of the part we are trying to have made?
Some info here: http://65gs.com/board/index.php/topic,3075.msg21218.html (http://65gs.com/board/index.php/topic,3075.msg21218.html)
Thanks!
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Dan,
Think you already have it. Grp 4.015 Part # 1361008, Seal Consolette Gearshift
Part # 1361012 is the Retainer, Hr. Shift Seal-Lower
That's what my 1965 parts book, effective May 1965 has.
Dan
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Hi Dan:
I've got different numbers! LOL
Is there a consensus on the following (Group 4.015) part numbers? My guesses are below
384431 = boot for round shifter lever NO console
3842926 = a Chevelle part number for lower console boot for cars WITH consolette???
1361008 = upper consolette boot for 68-72 with FLAT shifter handle AND console (i.e. the current and only repro) - so what about the 65-67 with round shifter and console?
I'm so confused haha
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Dan,
My source for the boot part number is a parts book dated May 1965. But am also confused. Why do we need part numbers ? We know what the part looks like.
Dan
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Dan,
My source for the boot part number is a parts book dated May 1965. But am also confused. Why do we need part numbers ? We know what the part looks like.
Dan
I need the most accurate part number to see if this part was used by any other years, makes or models. A batch of just 25 boots from Metro isn't going to happen; they told me on the phone today that the more cars these fit, the likelihood of production goes up. Hoping the part number would also cross reference to some year & model Chevrolet.
For what its worth, the part number is often how I confirm parts reproduced for other makes & models fit our Buicks - for example, the cross referenced part number is how I was able to determine that the Corvair hood emblem clips are the same for our trunk emblems and Skylark sail panel emblems. Without that exact part number, I never would have been able to determine that.
Logically, we know that the 68-72 models have a flat shifter handle, so how can they have the same part number as the 65-67 round shifter handles? Supersession?
Best,
Dan
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I just got this today about a run of blue pedal pads. No way unless theres a brazillion units. Gotta get the blue rubber etc. Odd that they make the elctra BLUE brake pads and black clutch units but cant put the two together for a few special guys. Maybe we need to get the guy on the forum??? ws
Good morning,
Hi there, I'm Jim with Metro Moulded Parts. I received your e-mail
inquiring about brake pedal pads in a medium blue color. How many sets,
specifically, would you be in a position to order. Our only colors we
produce parts in are black, grey, chocolate brown. It's possible to do
special colors, but we'd have to order a lot of rubber in a specific
color to do anything different from that, and I'm not able to offer a
cost on this without doing some research. If you're still interested,
let me know how many you would be able to order, and I can take it a
step further.
Best regards,
Jim Martin
Sales/ Metro Moulded Parts
866-643-7826 direct dial / toll-free
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Hi Dan:
I've got different numbers! LOL
Is there a consensus on the following (Group 4.015) part numbers? My guesses are below
384431 = boot for round shifter lever NO console
3842926 = a Chevelle part number for lower console boot for cars WITH consolette???
1361008 = upper consolette boot for 68-72 with FLAT shifter handle AND console (i.e. the current and only repro) - so what about the 65-67 with round shifter and console?
I'm so confused haha
I did some further research.
388494 and 3842926 - lower boot - round shifter WITH console. Also a Chevelle part.
384431 - boot - round shifter WITHOUT console. Also an Olds F85 (1st design part)
1361008 - upper boot - WITH console (Dan A. - my book shows same number)
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Dan , the boot that was in my 65 GS parts car has the part number 3842926 on it . I suppose its possible that it could have been replaced at one time but I really doubt it . Everything on tis car looks VERY original .
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Dan , the boot that was in my 65 GS parts car has the part number 3842926 on it . I suppose its possible that it could have been replaced at one time but I really doubt it . Everything on tis car looks VERY original .
John - was this a console or non-console car?
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I did some further research.
388494 and 3842926 - lower boot - round shifter WITH console. Also a Chevelle part.
384431 - boot - round shifter WITHOUT console. Also an Olds F85 (1st design part)
1361008 - upper boot - WITH console (Dan A. - my book shows same number)
As shown in the 1966 and 1973 Buick parts books, I can confirm those numbers.
Note the lower boot pn changed between the 1966 and 1973 books.
Note the upper boot is the same pn for both 65-67 round lever and 68-72 rectangular lever.
There may have been a different boot for early 1965 GS (no consolette). Mark had a different style in his car than the later version.
1966 Parts book:
(1966) 388494 seal, lvr. weatherseal to underbody (with consolette)
(65-66) 1361008 seal, gear shift (with console
(65-66) 384431 seal, control lvr (less consolette)
1972 Parts book:
(65-67) 3842926 seal, weatherseal to underbody (with console)
(65-72) 1361008 seal, gear shift (with console)
(65-67) 384431 seal, control lvr (less consolette)
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Dan , the boot that was in my 65 GS parts car has the part number 3842926 on it . I suppose its possible that it could have been replaced at one time but I really doubt it . Everything on tis car looks VERY original .
John - was this a console or non-console car?
Dan , i,m not sure if it was a console car or not . There wasn't much left of this car when I bought it . Was there mounting tabs somewhere on the floor that the console fastened to ? The shell of the car is still here so i could look for signs of a console if i knew what to look for .
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No tabs. The consolette base attaches to the tunnel with screws. See attached.
Chuck
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Thanks Chuck , ill do some investigating . IF I can get to the car , its a little buried right now .
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Thanks everyone for all the responses!!!!
Unfortunately, doesn't look like 1361008 fits any other year/make or model besides 65-67 Skylark & GS with manual trans & consolette (ignoring the fact that this same part number was used for the rectangular shifter from 68-72)
Perhaps we can reach out to Doug at Buick Farm? He did make a great cross shaft boot.
Dan
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John,
The boot in the picture you posted looks like the lower boot that attaches to the floor. The upper consolette boot has three tabs that protrude off the bottom edge with the mounting holes in them.
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Dan , It looks like the parts car I have here was probably a NON console car . I didn't see any holes in the floor that look like they would have held down a
console .