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Title: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on April 06, 2017, 01:32:55 PM
I just bought a 1965 buick skylark. The body is in great shape and some of the the interior has been done. I am starting on the rear end and adding disk brakes along with new bushings. So I've been told this is a 1965 special not a skylark. I've looking up the VIN and its shows it is a special and it came with a V6 not the V8 that is in it not. Going through the molding and emblems that came with the car, there are Skylark emblems, maybe someone wanted it to look more like a Skylark.
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: cwmcobra on April 06, 2017, 04:46:54 PM
Welcome to the 65 GS/Skylark/Special family.  We love restoration projects and encourage you to start a restoration thread.  Doesn't matter how extensive, we'd like to follow your journey and chime in with info as needed.

Happy to have you aboard!!

 :cheers2:

Chuck
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: GS66 on April 06, 2017, 05:03:13 PM
Welcome, looking forward to following along on your project!
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: 35chevcoupe on April 06, 2017, 06:15:35 PM
WELCOME .    Car looks pretty good , it would be great if you could start a restoration page so we can follow along . We love pictures of the progress . ( small or large )
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: schlepcar on April 06, 2017, 07:15:39 PM
Welcome and congrats on a clean looking 65. We are in the rust belt so anything that looks that good has to be imported to the state. Very solid looking project and looks straight too. Dan
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Buicknut65 on April 06, 2017, 07:25:17 PM
Looks like a good start but a Special not Skylark .
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on April 06, 2017, 08:46:36 PM
Thanks, what the difference between a skylark and a special. How do I start a restoration page?
Title: All Specials are special! (Re: I'm starting a restoration 65)
Post by: elagache on April 06, 2017, 10:08:31 PM
Dear Georick, Chuck, Jim, John, Buicknut65, and 65GS.com welcome wagon (http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Forum_support_documents/Custom_emoticons/welcomewagon.gif)

I just bought a 1965 buick skylark. The body is in great shape and some of the the interior has been done. I am starting on the rear end and adding disk brakes along with new bushings.


Sounds like a great start!  Welcome to 65GS.com! (http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Forum_support_documents/Custom_emoticons/whacko_smiley.gif)

So I've been told this is a 1965 special not a skylark. I've looking up the VIN and its shows it is a special and it came with a V6 not the V8 that is in it not. Going through the molding and emblems that came with the car, there are Skylark emblems, maybe someone wanted it to look more like a Skylark.


Thanks, what the difference between a skylark and a special.


Skylarks were a higher trim level than Specials.  Buick positioned different models with different options and paradoxically, Specials were less special than Skylarks.  Of course to some of us, some Specials are the most special cars of all!  :love4:

Another useful forum:  Team Buick has production data on the 1965 Buicks:

https://www.teambuick.com/reference/years/65.php (https://www.teambuick.com/reference/years/65.php)

You could either make your car into a "Skylark clone" or you could restore it to a correct Special trim level.  Most of the restoration parts you need are reproduced.  I have a Special and some other guys also have them so we can give you the correct details if you go that route.

How do I start a restoration page?


Well this thread is already in the correct topic.  You could simply start describing your restoration by replying to this post and telling your story here!

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:

Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on April 07, 2017, 03:34:24 AM
Thank you all for your welcomes and information, I'll keep you posted on my progress. I'll check out more information on the specials. Does anyone know where I can find window regulators?
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: gssizzler on April 07, 2017, 06:14:21 AM
Georick, you have a Special deluxe! This is a different animal as we say! This is a Special with Skylark side trim ! , the rear tail panel trim and taillights are unique to the special deluxe only!I had a four door driver years ago!  Wish I still had it! What is interesting about this model is that it could be ordered  with a V6 or V8  or padded dash and any of the other options! So there are many different combinations out there! When I had my four door I had a guy come up to me and  say you put that trim on that car! ,to which I replied I  have a Special Deluxe! Would you like to see the VIN! Drive and enjoy your Car!, we only get so much time!
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: option B9 on April 07, 2017, 08:11:30 AM
  Hi Georick, Welcome to the world of Special, Skylark & Skylark Gran Sport.  It does look like you have a Special Deluxe. And that's an odd fire 225V6 under the hood. a good little motor that's easy to work on. Send us more pictures we like to see the rest of it..     
                                                     
                                                                                                         Tony
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: schlepcar on April 07, 2017, 08:47:21 AM
I think that may be a 66-7 motor,but it is a v-8....I had to look at it twice to figure out what was different.
Title: Window regulators anybody? (Re: I'm starting a restoration 65)
Post by: elagache on April 07, 2017, 11:13:47 AM
Dear Georick, Jon, Tony, Dan, and mid-60s Buick caregivers,

Thank you all for your welcomes and information, I'll keep you posted on my progress. I'll check out more information on the specials.

We can certainly provide you with more information about the Specials.  Also, you might want to get your hands on the Service manual, Body manual, and perhaps even the Assembly manual.  There are decent used one around for not too much money and even some reprints.

You'll need to decide how original you want to make this car.  For example, I just noticed the car has an aftermarket steering wheel.  It's really tough to get a good looking original 1965 Buick Deluxe Special steering wheel.  The good thing is that it is the same as the Skylark.

Does anyone know where I can find window regulators?

Unfortunately I don't.  Does anybody else have a lead on window regulators?

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: 455pev on April 07, 2017, 12:10:10 PM
Welcome aboard.

I have a set of regulators but don't know it they will work.  Someone chime in and tell me if the hardtop and sedans use the same regulators?
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: dsags on April 07, 2017, 02:55:57 PM
Welcome aboard.

I have a set of regulators but don't know it they will work.  Someone chime in and tell me if the hardtop and sedans use the same regulators?

The rears are different for certain. Not sure about the fronts.

Dan
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on April 09, 2017, 12:01:30 AM
I've removed the axles and the deferential
Title: Parts don't look too bad (Re: I'm starting a restoration 65)
Post by: elagache on April 09, 2017, 09:26:24 AM
Dear Georick and mid-60s Buick restorers,

I've removed the axles and the deferential

That's one more task that needed to be done.  The parts don't look too bad for being 52 years old!

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on April 09, 2017, 04:32:04 PM
Yes I'm very surprised with the condition of the parts so far.
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on April 11, 2017, 06:49:22 PM
My UMI  suspension rear control arms and sway bar showed up
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: GS66 on April 11, 2017, 07:28:49 PM
You will inspire me to put my parts on a car! I won control arms and a sway bar from Heidt's on the Power Tour a couple of years ago and they are still in the boxes. Nice stuff though! Good luck with yours.
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on April 11, 2017, 08:05:24 PM
Thank you. I was lucky the rear end came out easy
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on April 13, 2017, 07:50:21 AM
I received the sheet metal panels for the trunk and I painted the rear calipers
Title: Progress! (Re: restoration 65)
Post by: elagache on April 13, 2017, 11:04:24 AM
Dear Georick and mid-60s Buick restorers,

I received the sheet metal panels for the trunk and I painted the rear calipers

Definitely progress!  I see you got some Eastwood paint for the calipers.  Eastwood won't let you down!

Cheers, Edouard
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on April 13, 2017, 11:07:33 AM
It went on nicely
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: cwmcobra on April 13, 2017, 11:08:50 AM
Lookin' good!!
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on April 15, 2017, 03:26:05 PM
I removed most of the rusted out areas in the trunk and preparing it for the new steel metal
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on May 23, 2017, 01:41:27 PM
I had the deferential rebuilt,
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: GS66 on May 23, 2017, 04:46:41 PM
Wow, you're really making progress! Looks great!
Title: Looking good! (Re: I'm starting a restoration 65)
Post by: elagache on May 23, 2017, 09:33:41 PM
Dear Georick, Jim and mid-60s Buick lovers, . .  :love4:

I had the deferential rebuilt,

Definitely a very nice restoration of the differential!  Keep up the good work!  :icon_thumright:

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on May 24, 2017, 08:55:59 AM
Thanks guy's
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on July 03, 2017, 08:08:40 AM
Getting the rear end back in the car, it's was a lot easier to roll around on the ground with I was in my 30s. Being 60 now it's no fun rolling around for 2 and a haft hours on the ground.
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: GS66 on July 03, 2017, 09:14:16 AM
That's lookin' good!
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: dsags on July 03, 2017, 10:33:32 AM
Getting the rear end back in the car, it's was a lot easier to roll around on the ground with I was in my 30s. Being 60 now it's no fun rolling around for 2 and a haft hours on the ground.

That's looking good. Whose coil springs and air bags are you using ? Like the UMI control arms.

Might want to try the cushioning floor mats sold at Harbor Freight. Put those down and the rolling and crawling gets more tolerable.

Dan
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on July 03, 2017, 10:57:48 AM
Thanks, the air bags are from Air Lift and the springs are BMR and they are 2 inch lower
Title: Sympathies - definitely progress! (Re: I'm starting a restoration 65)
Post by: elagache on July 03, 2017, 11:14:37 AM
Dear Georick, Jim, Dan, and mid-60s Buick owners who want to age gracefully,

Getting the rear end back in the car, it's was a lot easier to roll around on the ground with I was in my 30s. Being 60 now it's no fun rolling around for 2 and a haft hours on the ground.

My sympathies on the miseries of growing old.  However, the sacrifice was worth it.  You've definitely made a nice upgrade!  :icon_thumright:

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on July 03, 2017, 01:33:03 PM
Thank you. Once the rear is done I'll start on the front end
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: dsags on July 03, 2017, 03:45:58 PM
Thank you. Once the rear is done I'll start on the front end

Are you going to use UMI up front also ? Put the adjustable uppers with 1/2" taller ball joints, standard lowers and coilovers in my 65 GS hardtop. What a difference that made. No wandering just nice straight tracking. Makes highway driving a pleasure. Make sure to upgrade to a quick ratio steering box too.

Dan
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: vinnie on July 03, 2017, 05:19:39 PM
Maybe Rollaround will join us on the site tonight. He just finished a total rebuild of the front end of his 65. Tells me it drives like a new car.
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: gssizzler on July 03, 2017, 08:41:11 PM
Making great progress looks great! :headbang:
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on July 03, 2017, 11:14:16 PM
Right now I'm looking at the tubular upper and lower control arms for Global West. Has anyone used them.
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: wheelz on July 13, 2017, 12:26:29 PM
Hey Georick, I've been a long time Buick Restorer (since 1971) and have recently decided to slowly bow out of the hobby. My wife's cancer has taken a serious toll out of my objectives as you can well imagine.
THAT being said, I have afew questions for you:
What power plant have you decided to use?  I have a good reason to ask this as an old Buick friend, Master Service Tech and Service Director hand built a 425 2x4 motor, using the best of the best internals..,  this motor has been broken in, run at least every month on a stand, and is available.  I'll go into details IF you are interested. Also I have quite a few 65 parts along with my personal 65 GS (featured on Velocity's 'All Girls Garage' in April 2017)  I will be selling soon as well.

I dont wish to 'tease' anyone reading this announcement, but I will, very soon, be unloading ALL and EVERYTHING 65 Buick related.
I've already posted (on V8 Buick) several 'Groups' of basically 70-72 stuff and my 65 stash will soon follow.

Stay tuned.

Wheelz, Tampa Bay
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: cwmcobra on July 13, 2017, 03:39:04 PM
Dennis,

Hopefully, you will offer your 65 GS stash here first, where the real 65 enthusiasts reside.  We'd surely appreciate it.

So sorry to hear about your wife's illness.  Prayers for you and your family as you venture down this path. 

Chuck

Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on July 14, 2017, 06:35:18 AM

I also send prays to your wife and family.

Thank you for your reply. The car has a 300 in now and I'm looking into putting a 350 in it.


Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: wheelz on July 15, 2017, 09:30:07 AM
THANX everyone for the kind prayers!   This has become a struggle. 
Georick, as far as motor, can you envision my 425 2X4 engine with a factory 4 speed setup in your 65?  Can you say major S L E E P E R!??   

LOL
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on September 13, 2017, 08:18:46 AM
I put the gas tank back in and now I'm starting to take apart the front end
Title: Great to see the progress! (Re: I'm starting a restoration 65)
Post by: elagache on September 13, 2017, 10:55:28 AM
Dear Georick and mid-60s Buick restorers,

I put the gas tank back in and now I'm starting to take apart the front end

I'm glad to see you are continuing to make progress on your restoration!  Keep pluggin'!  :thumbsup:

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on October 12, 2017, 07:51:27 AM
I've removed the front suspension. Now it's cleaning and painting time.. The I'll get the check book out and buy all the new parts.
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: cwmcobra on October 12, 2017, 06:31:30 PM
Fun....I remember it well! 

Enjoy the journey!

Chuck
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on October 18, 2017, 12:11:10 PM
I've started cleaning up the engine and I know the car had a 6 cly in from the factory and someone put a 300 v8 in it. I found some numbers on the drivers side front of the block. I've not had any luck finding what the numbers mean. I'd appreciate any information you can provide.
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: WkillGS on October 18, 2017, 12:43:33 PM
Looks like the partial VIN that is stamped on blocks.
7= 1967
H= car was built in Flint, MI
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on October 18, 2017, 01:06:23 PM
Thank you for your reply
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on January 25, 2018, 02:42:51 PM
I've made so progress on the front end. I had a tuff time getting the lowest A Arms in, but with some cussing and a ratchet strap, floor jack and a hammer they are in and looking great.
Title: Looks like a great improvement! (Re: I'm starting a restoration 65)
Post by: elagache on January 25, 2018, 06:35:41 PM
Dear Georick and mid-60s Buick restorers,

I've made so progress on the front end. I had a tuff time getting the lowest A Arms in, but with some cussing and a ratchet strap, floor jack and a hammer they are in and looking great.

Yes indeed those new parts look great and will perform much better than the OEM parts.  Definitely great progress!  :thumbsup:

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on March 14, 2018, 09:58:57 AM
I just finished putting the front end together. I still need to get the brakes hooked up. And I have my next project what I got. It's a 1971 Ford Bronco
Title: Don't bite off! . . . . (Re: I'm starting a restoration 65)
Post by: elagache on March 14, 2018, 10:51:47 AM
Dear Georick and mid-60s Buick restorers,

I just finished putting the front end together. I still need to get the brakes hooked up.

Looking better all the time!  :hello2:


And I have my next project what I got. It's a 1971 Ford Bronco

Be careful!  Don't bite off more than you can chew!
  :laughing7:

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on March 14, 2018, 11:15:58 AM
Thank you
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: GS66 on March 14, 2018, 01:28:53 PM
Looks good, nice progress!
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: cwmcobra on March 14, 2018, 02:11:58 PM
Looking really good!  What's next?

Nice project Bronco.  Are you doing them concurrently, or does the Bronco follow completion of the Buick?

Nice work; keep the updates coming!

 :cheers2:

Chuck
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on March 15, 2018, 01:04:27 PM
The Bronco will be started after in finish the Buick
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on April 19, 2018, 09:37:02 AM
I just started bending new brake lines I'll post more pictures soon
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on April 19, 2018, 09:41:04 AM
And I've installed the headers
Title: Great to see the progress! (Re: I'm starting a restoration 65)
Post by: elagache on April 19, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Looking good!  :icon_thumright:

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: GS66 on April 19, 2018, 06:49:44 PM
Yes, nice progress!
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: cwmcobra on April 20, 2018, 11:30:04 AM
Nice indeed!  Don't you wish they could stay that way?   :BangHead:

 :cheers2:

Chuck
Title: Re: I'm starting a restoration 65
Post by: Georick on April 20, 2018, 10:34:29 PM
Yes that would be great