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Drivetrain => Rims & Tires => Topic started by: mdkd on May 22, 2012, 08:11:21 PM
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All
I am looking for a clean set of 1965 Buick GS Lug Nuts.
I ordered a set of 7/16-20 Stainless Steel Lug Nuts for a Skylark that have just arrived.
They are very high quality and pictured on the right side of the picture below.
I am concerned they may not be the exterior size I am looking for.
The Lug Nut to the left is 7/16-20 and the center one is 1/2-20.
The Lug Nuts that came on my car are 7/16-20 and look a lot different.
Does anyone know what is correct and where I could get them if this new set isn't?
Thanks
Milton
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Hi Milton,
Here's a photo of a '65 GS lug nut that came off the hardtop. So I'm confident that it's an original. It's looks like the first lugnut in your photo is an original 7/16-20. The closest reproduction that I can find to it is the same as the last lug nut in your photo.
John
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John
Thanks as always.
The Lug Nut on the left is a sample from the Mark Ascher collection.
Thanks to the two of you I really know what I am looking for.
I'll stick with the stainless for now.
Milton
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Calling Jon Thompson......
Mark
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Milton, Mark, John , Hi guys the lug nut in John's pic looks correct! size should be 13/16 hex with 7/16- 20 originals where tool steel with chrome plating! The two different stainless one's I know of are the ones Cars Inc and Mitch Romanowski sell! I want say the one's Cars sell are the smaller hex size used on the 68 - 72 cars and the ones Romanowski sells might be the same to!? the tappered cone on these are less pronounced than on the originals. If you use the 13/16 size lug nuts you will have to find a big car lug wrench! this is also correct!( cat , electra). Many years ago my friend Al and I did some in stainless, for our cars! I think Loren has a set to! I still have the profile cutter used to cut the acorn but stainless and the cost to make them is to expensive last time I checked we would have to charge over $ 200 per set! Jon
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Jon Thompson, the man, the myth, the legend, the go-to-guy with all the right answers. Great to have you on board!
Thanks,
John
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Jon I would buy a set if you would have them made!
Starc
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Jon,
Maybe you should test the waters and see what demand is. I'd absolutely buy a set too.
Post here & on the "other" Buick forum and see what kind of feedback you get.
Mark
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Jon
Thanks for your input.
The Stainless 7/16-20 (Smaller Nut in Picture) I received was from Mitch Romanowski along with a set of 65 Center Caps.
Like I said the Quality was very good and so was the service but not the exterior size I was looking for on a 65.
Each Nut came individually wrapped in plastic.
I would also be interested in a set of the correct size if it would help you decide on a run.
Milton
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Agreed. I was trying to use the 3/4 Stainless from Mitch on my torque thrust wheels, just not enough taper for me to be comfortable.
I have original 13/16 ones that are pretty tattered but the will serve. I'm "in" if new 13/16 ones are offered! :occasion14:
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Would be in for at least one. A set of the stainless incorrect ones is almost $100.
Dan
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Guys, I will work on getting a quote in a smaller production. I wish we could talk a vendor into making these as they are used on all 65-67 GS, Skylarks, Specials, Sport Wagons they could also be used on any A-Body Gm 64-72 ! although not correct! Not sure if they were used on any of the 442 , Goats , SS's ? also would look nice on these cars to ! Jon
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Your the man Jon! Thanks keep us posted.
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Did some more research, the lug nuts were also used on the 68 cars also! The lug
wrench that you want to look for is used on the 61-66 big cars . I have two quotes that I am working on with some machine shops will post asap! Jon
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Jon
Any hope for your small run yet this season.
I know negotiations can be touch and go so don't tip your hand if inappropriate.
Milton
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I have got 4 different bids ,working with to machine shops on production time etc.., I know that I will be doing 12 sets in first run, one set sold already, I have to also put out the money for these! myself! Hopefully have a cost per set and time on these soon! sorry for the delay Jon
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Jon I will take 2 sets
Starc
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Good news on the lug nuts! They wil go into production in 2 weeks! 12 sets will be made! these will be polished and ready to put on your cars! price will be $195 per set before shipping! Here is a picture of one on a road wheel! I will contact the people who have replied to this post first! any questions? Jon
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Those look nice. Makes you wonder why the big vendors don't just make them right in the first place. I guess they don't figure they could sell 5000 sets at $65 ? . I'll have to sell some spare parts for these..
DL
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Jon
My 65 GS wheels are painted and anxiously awaiting the arrival of their LUG NUTS to replace the American Coke Bottle mags I purchased new in 1973.
Yes, those are the original tires with tubes in the picture.
Also notice there is no webbing on the edge of the spokes.
Later versions had the webbing added to the spokes to keep them from cracking I understand.
In any case burnouts in the driveway are out of the question on the old rollers.
PM me with directions on what you need for transaction on one 4 wheel set of correct LUG NUTS.
Milton
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Jon, pm sent.
Milton, those wheels & tires are the coolest.
Mark
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Milton pm sent! Jon
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I think we are all NUTS! about Buicks that is! good news! lug nuts are in from the machine shop and they are on there way to get polished! :rocker: :headbang:
I will post when they are ready! thanks Jon
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They look great! Can't wait see to see them polished!
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Like! I'm in for a set. Much admiration for Getting er Done!!!!! :occasion14:
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Jon, if all 12 sets have not yet been spoken for, I will definitely take one set for my car. :rocker: I live in Canada, but can arrange for a US shipping address. :thumbsup:
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Tom, not all are spoken for! I will put you down for a set! thanks Jon
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Are these reproductions of Group 6.335/5.812 #1373828 ?
How many sets are left?
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Yes ! Dan these are repro's of # 1373828, I have 4 sets left that are not spoken for or sold! Jon
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Tom, not all are spoken for! I will put you down for a set! thanks Jon
Sounds great Jon. If I do not respond shortly after they are ready for shipment, it is only because my job doesn't always permit regular internet access. I will definitely take a set from you. Thanks!!
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Yes ! Dan these are repro's of # 1373828, I have 4 sets left that are not spoken for or sold! Jon
Jon - put me down for a set. Thanks
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Ok, Dan got you down for a set! thanks Jon
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First four sets are ready! sorry for the delay! the guy I was going to do the polishing no longer does it as he has diabetes ,can't feel his hands and has to poke his fingers daily :sad1: he did all of the stainless trim for my 65 some years back! So I had to go elsewhere .I will try and get them finished up as fast as I can! Thanks Jon
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Yes ! Dan these are repro's of # 1373828, I have 4 sets left that are not spoken for or sold! Jon
Jon:
Are these ready to ship? No rush, just wondering when I need to send payment. Thanks
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Dan , contacting people in order that they replied to post you are coming up after Milton, Starc, Ted, I had to polish the nuts in groups of 4 sets for quality and materials and buffing wheels! I am thinking next week for the rest of the sets to be done! sorry for the delay! thanks Jon
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The new lug nuts are here! The new lug nuts are here!
Thanks Jon!
Mark
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You are welcome! Mark , can't wait to see them on your GS!
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Milton, Ted, Dan, Tom, Pm sent your way! Starc talked to you already! I have 3 sets left if anyone is interested let me know ! thanks Jon
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I will take a set. PM me with info on the details.
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Brian pm sent!
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Looks like I have 1 set left either not sold or spoken for!, thanks to all who purchased these or are going to! It took awhile to get these done!
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Thanks for your hard work getting these done! Just in time for the GS nats! Thanks again
Starc
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Brian, Ted, Howard, thanks for purchasing lug nuts! 1 set left ! Jon
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The lug nut saga continues. Has anyone seen these yet? Look identical to the factory lug nuts that came on the '65. Being offered by Summit racing on Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mr-Gasket-Lug-Nuts-7-16-20-Conical-Seat-60-Degree-Set-of-5-Chrome-/370653092661?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mr-Gasket-Lug-Nuts-7-16-20-Conical-Seat-60-Degree-Set-of-5-Chrome-/370653092661?forcev4exp=true&forceRpt=true)
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Brian, I have a set of these that I bought over 20 years ago , they are taller and the acorn is bigger they look good, but the cone tapper is not great and they wreck the nut seat! Not blowning my own horn but I would not put them on my wheels! Jon
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I ordered 5 of the Mr. Gasket lug nuts just to check them out and you are correct that they are about 1/8" taller than the original lug nuts. The seat on them does not look like the one in the picture you attached though. It matches up well with the seat on the originals and on the reproduction ones I just bought from you.
I also figured out something yesterday that may help some people out. As we discussed somewhere on here before, the chrome wheel lug nuts are 13/16" compared to 3/4" hex for the standard wheel lug nuts. If someone is trying to find the correct 13/16" lug wrench they can be hard to find. I figured out yesterday that the lug wrench in the 80-96 Ford F150 trucks is a 13/16". The bend in the end is slightly less and the handle is about 2" longer. I quickly remedied the angle issue by heating it with the torch until red and bent it to the same angle as my original 13/16" lug wrench. I then cut the handle to the correct length and re-shaped the cut end to a 'blade' with an angle grinder. I will post a picture in a few days once the gray paint dries. Looks just like the original 13/16" one I have, and they are very plentiful in junkyards.
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Here are some pics of the 13/16" Ford truck lug wrench after modifying it to match the 3/4" 65 Buick one I had. The 3/4" original one came out of a 65 special I parted out many years ago. I have seen them all different shades of gray. I painted these with some gray rust-oleum paint.
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Nice work Brian!
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Brian
Which wrench started out as the Ford in the bottom picture?
Thanks
Milton
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The wrench in the bottom of both pictures is the one that was modifed from a Ford truck. It fits the lug nuts with the 13/16" hex.
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Brian, the Mr Gasket lug nuts appear to have a larger diameter dome than the original/repo nuts. Is that true? if so, is it noticeably larger?
While I considered purchasing some of Jon's repos, of the FIVE 65-6 GS's I have, NONE of them came with original rally wheels! I do prefer the 15" wheel anyway. The Mr Gasket version may be good enough for me.... and fit my x5 budget better. :icon_biggrin:
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The dome is slightly larger, but you will never notice it unless you have one laying next to an original on the bench. You cannot tell it by itself and definiltey will not notice it on the car. They are about 1/8" longer than the originals, but it would take a pretty keen eye to notice that on the car as well.
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Ok here it goes ,is there any interest in more lug nuts on the site? I have checked on having another dozen sets made! I have at least three or four local people interested in sets one guy says get them made I want two sets for sure! So that would cover three or four sets out of the dozen the cost has gone up a little ! It has been three years since I did the last ones! The best price on them would be $215 ! Before shipping this is Not Polished! I'm try to work a deal on getting this done.So if there is interest let me know ASAP as the machine shop has time to work these in the next months Thanks Jon :headbang:
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Jon,
I'd be in for one more set.
Mark
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Jon
I would be in for another set.
The last ones were great.
Roger Sears was asking about a set in Spingfield at the Nationals but he doesn't use a computer.
Milton
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Hi Jon,
I am interested in 2 sets.
Stacey
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Jon , I take it these are for the chrome wheels ? if so I,ll take a set also .
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Yes these are for the chrome wheels! I will put some shots on so you can see them! I would feel comfortable with doing these with a few more people interested got to make. Sure they are sold!Thanks guys
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Couple pics stainless nut is on the left
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It will be awhile longer before These go into production as I have some unforeseen bills that I have to get paid off! Thanks for your patience!
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Jon,
Please add my name to the list for one set. Timing is not a problem for me....I'm a long way from bolting the wheels on ! :laughing7:
Chuck
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Jon,
Please put my name on the list also. Thank you.
Dan
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