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Classifieds => Vendor / Seller / Buyers Feedback => Topic started by: cwmcobra on November 30, 2017, 12:26:47 PM
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Long story, but here goes.....
I recently had a very positive interface with a company that I'd not heard of before. Loren suggested I order a glove box liner from them. They are the only company we've seen that lists a liner for a 65 Skylark with air conditioning. As many of you know, that liner is tapered front to back on the right side to clear the A/C discharge vent on that side of the dash, which makes it different than the liner for a non-A/C car. I was surprised to find a liner for an A/C car because I had asked about them here on the Forum and found that none were available. New liners for the non-A/C car were being modified to fit.
The company I bought it from is: http://www.classicbuicks.com (http://www.classicbuicks.com). They are located in Dallas, Oregon. Suburban Portland, I believe. I noted on the order confirmation that the liner was scheduled to be drop shipped directly from the manufacturer. So the box arrived and I opened it to find that this is a liner for the non-A/C application. It was a Repops brand, their part number BU101. I wasn't surprised based on the information from this group, but a bit disappointed. I figured I'd have to modify this new liner to fit my A/C car like others have had to do. But before doing that, I decided to call Classic Buicks to make them aware that this liner is not correct for a non-A/C car.
I ended up talking with Marc, the owner of Classic Buicks. I explained the situation and he was surprised and pulled up his ordering information from Repops. It did list separate parts for the A/C and non-A/C applications, but with a little more digging, he found that BU101 was listed as the part number for both. He said he would call Repops, discuss with them, and get back to me. A day later he called back and asked me to call a representative at Repops (actually Montco Manufacturing in Mena, Arkansas) to discuss the situation. I did that and found the Repops rep to also be surprised that there are two different glove box liner for our cars.
So, now I'll shorten the story. I sent the liner from my air conditioned 65 Skylark parts car to Montco. It was structurally good, but suffered from normal wear and tear. I confirmed today that he received it. They are going to make a pattern from it and in a few months will be offering the correct liner for air conditioned Skylarks for sale. He will send the first production part to me when they are available, probably in 2-3 months. They will be flocked and will have the internal document shelf, just like the originals. He said the only feature they have not been able to duplicate is the vinyl pipiing on the document shelf. When I receive the new liner, I'll post some pictures and let this group know they are available. When that time comes, I'll be recommending that those interested in purchasing buy them from Classic Buicks. Any company that takes the initiative to have a needed part reproduced for us deserves some business!!
Stay tuned.....
Chuck
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That is great news Chuck! Since you now have a contact at Repops, it would be great if you could point out that the same situation exists for the 66-67 glovebox liner. It has an extra bend in the bottom of it to create a taper up from the bottom to the back so that it will clear the heater/AC box under the dash in the A/C cars. The non-A/C one has a squared off bottom to back transition. I may be able to come up with an original, and if not, I am guessing Walt has one somewhere in his collection.
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It would be interesting to see how many members are interested in being able to obtain a correct glove box liner for A.C. cars
I know, I could make use of two.
Loren
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Dear Chuck, Brian, Loren, and mid-60s Buick parts hounds,
Long story, but here goes.....
I recently had a very positive interface with a company that I'd not heard of before.
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When that time comes, I'll be recommending that those interested in purchasing buy them from Classic Buicks. Any company that takes the initiative to have a needed part reproduced for us deserves some business!!
Hey that's great news! :hello2: Indeed, I'm also pleased to hear about this company and will remember them next time I need something.
So, now I'll shorten the story. I sent the liner from my air conditioned 65 Skylark parts car to Montco. It was structurally good, but suffered from normal wear and tear. I confirmed today that he received it. They are going to make a pattern from it and in a few months will be offering the correct liner for air conditioned Skylarks for sale. He will send the first production part to me when they are available, probably in 2-3 months.
Stay tuned.....
(http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Forum_support_documents/Custom_emoticons/wink_smile_triangle.gif) . . . . Yeah, but do you think they would be interested in reproducing one of these? (http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Forum_support_documents/Custom_emoticons/big_grin_triangle.gif)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Biquette/Drive-Train-makeover/Completed-glove-box-liner/i-Fr2wHD7/0/7abc77e0/XL/Liner%20comparison%20-%20starboard%20front-XL.jpg) (https://canebas.smugmug.com/Biquette/Drive-Train-makeover/Completed-glove-box-liner/i-Fr2wHD7/A)
Here's the view of the back:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Biquette/Drive-Train-makeover/Completed-glove-box-liner/i-Pdns4mg/0/c2bb7a37/XL/Liner%20comparison%20-%20port%20back-XL.jpg) (https://canebas.smugmug.com/Biquette/Drive-Train-makeover/Completed-glove-box-liner/i-Pdns4mg/A)
Oh well, I suppose the market for glove box liners for 1965 Buick A-bodies equipped with Vintage Air isn't that large after all! . . . . (http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Forum_support_documents/Custom_emoticons/Laughing_LOL.gif)
Cheers, Edouard :occasion14:
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It would be interesting to see how many members are interested in being able to obtain a correct glove box liner for A.C. cars
I know, I could make use of two.
Loren
Put me down for two also.
Dan
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That is great news Chuck! Since you now have a contact at Repops, it would be great if you could point out that the same situation exists for the 66-67 glovebox liner. It has an extra bend in the bottom of it to create a taper up from the bottom to the back so that it will clear the heater/AC box under the dash in the A/C cars. The non-A/C one has a squared off bottom to back transition. I may be able to come up with an original, and if not, I am guessing Walt has one somewhere in his collection.
I'll be happy to do that. Let's confirm first that we have a worthy original liner to send for a pattern. Once that is confirmed, I'll give them a call.
Chuck
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It would be interesting to see how many members are interested in being able to obtain a correct glove box liner for A.C. cars
I know, I could make use of two.
Loren
Should we make this known on other Buick sites as well? I don't frequent them, but will make the effort on sites that are recommended. Or, if preferred, this site and post can be referenced on other Buick sites. That would be fine with me :hello2:
Chuck
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Thanks for your time and efforts on this Chuck. Production timing for the glove box liner should work out just right for my project.
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I'll order one from them once available. It was a pita modifying the non AC version to fit in ours.
Thanks and good job Chuck!!
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All
Count me in for one.
Never know when I might need one.
Milton
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Any news on this, Chuck ?
Loren
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Not yet. I don't expect to hear anything until next month at the earliest. I think I'll call Repops and see if they'll give me a status update, though.
Still looking for a volunteer to send a 66 Skylark liner for a pattern. If anyone's interested, let me know.
Chuck
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For a volunteer you need a 66 A/C liner, is that right? I could maybe take one out of one of my cars.
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Any update on this project? Thanks!
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I spoke with Repops a few weeks ago and they thought maybe it would be available by the end of this month. I'm not holding my breath, but hopeful. I'll know they are ready when I receive the first one from production. They have agreed to let us be a sort of distributor for this product. I'll get more details when the part is available and let you know how we might save a few bucks with this.
Stay tuned.....
:cheers2:
Chuck
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I?m in for one Chuck!
Hope all is well.
Tony
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Just talked with Repops and they expect to have the liner ready by the end of this week. I expect to hear confirmation early next week and will announce it here soon!
:cheers2:
Chuck
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Thanks for the update Chuck!
For those of you keeping track, the Group number is 10.260
Part # 1368599 (WITH a/c)
# 1368708 (withOUT a/c)
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Down for one !
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In for 2. Thanks!
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Update: Received the first sample yesterday. They look nice; I don't have the original to compare it with, but it looks good. The only problem is that Repops forgot to install the metal fasteners in the holes, so there's nothing to fasten the screws to. I called them and, with obvious embarrassment, they are making another and will send it very soon. When I receive it, I'll install it in my restoration and give them feedback. At that time I'll update a process for purchasing them.
Note, the one thing they claim they can't duplicate is the piping on the interior shelf.
Meanwhile, teaser pictures attached, comparing the A/C and non-A/C liners.
:cheers2:
Chuck
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Dear Chuck and mid-60s Buick caregivers,
Update: Received the first sample yesterday. They look nice; I don't have the original to compare it with, but it looks good.
Yes indeed these guys have done a great job reproducing this glove box liner. Kudos to them and thanks for taking the lead to make this happen! :icon_thumright:
Cheers, Edouard
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Good news !
I think I could use a couple for sure.
Loren
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Chuck, definitely need one of those when they are ready.
Dan
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The liner for the A/C Skylark arrived this week and had the fastening clips installed. I've attached a couple of pictures of the A/C and non-A/C liners for comparison. Today I did the install and it fits like a glove (pun intended :laughing7:), The install went very easily, partly because this liner, unlike the non-A/C liner, has fold lines on the sides, so it was easy to bend the sides and compress the liner into the opening and work it into place. All the screw holes and clips lined up perfectly. We're in business!
Early next week I'll call Repops and see what kind of deal I can work out for a wholesale buy. I'll also take a count of those that have expressed interest to get a better idea of initial quantity to buy.
:cheers2:
Chuck
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Here's the count I have so far for a group purchase:
Loren 2
Dan A. 1
Tony S. 1
Milton 1
Jon T. 1
Dan H. 2
Chuck 2
Anyone else want to reserve one?
:cheers2:
Chuck
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Dear Chuck and mid-60s Buick owners who like to be cool - literally! :glasses9:
The liner for the A/C Skylark arrived this week and had the fastening clips installed. I've attached a couple of pictures of the A/C and non-A/C liners for comparison. Today I did the install and it fits like a glove (pun intended :laughing7:), The install went very easily, partly because this liner, unlike the non-A/C liner, has fold lines on the sides, so it was easy to bend the sides and compress the liner into the opening and work it into place. All the screw holes and clips lined up perfectly. We're in business!
Looks great! :icon_thumright: Thanks for taking on this project! (http://www.canebas.org/WeatherCat/Forum_support_documents/Custom_emoticons/thanks_sign.gif)
This is one of those small but really annoying details that now resolved will make all the factory A/C Buick A-bodies that much nicer to drive and look at! :sunny:
Cheers, Edouard :occasion14:
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It's a small and easy(ish) project. If you folks have old glove boxes that looked and functioned like mine, it is well worth the investment. :thumbsup:
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Hi Chuck:
Any update on this project? Thanks again for your efforts!
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Hi Dan,
Sorry for the delay in setting this up. We've been away all summer dealing with family medical issues. When I return after Thanksgiving, I'll get going on this.
Again, sorry for the delay.
Chuck
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Hi Chuck -
No reason to apologize! Family first! (Buicks a distance second :icon_biggrin: ) Just wanted to make sure I didn't miss out.
Best,
Dan
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I have returned and just talked again with Repops on the glovebox liners. I can buy the liners in lots of 10 or more at a distributor price. They will sell both the liners for the AC and non-AC cars.
I expect costs after paying to have them shipped to be no more than $15 each. I checked prices online and found the non-AC liners selling for a best price of about $26 plus shipping. The AC liner I found for $35 plus shipping. So I'm confident this will be a very good deal for those that are interested. I'm willing to bring some to the Spring meet in Minneapolis, to our friends in Ohio, or any other meet that I might get to. I'll also work up a cost for packing and shipping if you want them shipped.
So, if you are interested, please confirm how many of each liner you'd like. When that info is received, I'll place the order and let you know when to expect them.
If you'd like to do more research before committing, the Repops part numbers are BU101 for the non-AC liner and BU285 for the AC liner.
Any other questions, let me know.
:cheers2:
Chuck
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PM sent. Dan
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I need one of the A/C liners for my car. You can give mine to Mark Ascher when you are in MN for the spring meet, and I can get it from him later in the summer when I see him.
Did you have any success getting them to make the A/C liner for the 66-67 cars? If so, I need one of them too.
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Hi Brian,
They have agreed to put the 66 liner into the queue. But we need a good sample to send them to reproduce and no one has offered one yet. If someone is willing to provide one, I'm pretty confident, with a little time, Repops will create the reproduction. Anyone have a decent sample available?
Thanks,
Chuck
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Thanks for your time and efforts on this Chuck. I'll take two.
Maybe a road trip for Glenn and I.
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Chuck -
Thanks for getting this done! I will need 2 please - shipped to me in Las Vegas.
Thanks!
Dan
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Thanks Kevin and Dan. Please confirm which two you need....AC or non-AC.
Thanks!
Chuck
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Chuck
I'm still in for one of the AC units.
The Extravaganza Car Show put on by the Gopher Star Buick Club at the Minnesota State Fairgrounds is still the first Sunday in May this year so that makes it May 5, 2019.
The 65GS.com get together has always been the night before so far.
My white car is in Que for paint so I'm not real sure how soon I will need the glove box but I would guess it would be easiest if I installed it at the same time I put the new dash pad in.
My zip is 55079.
Milton
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Thanks Kevin and Dan. Please confirm which two you need....AC or non-AC.
Thanks!
Chuck
Sorry about that! The 2 I needed are A/C.
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Chuck , I,m in for one . Non AC .
Spring extravaganza works for me .
Thank you .
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Da! I’ll take one AC and one Non-AC.
Kevin
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Here's what I have so far:
Dan A. - 2 AC, 1 non-AC
Brian S. - 1 AC
Milton D. - 1 AC
Dan H. - 2 AC
John E. - 1 non-AC
Kevin C. - 1 AC, 1 non-AC
Glenn V. - 1 non-AC
Anyone else want to be included? I'm planning to place an order by the end of this week.
Thanks,
Chuck
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Chuck, put me down for 1 of each style please ! Thanks
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Thanks Jon!
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Hi Chuck,
Just got home from Florida last night and this is the first opportunity to reply.
Put me down for two of each. Delivery in May good for me.
Thanks, Loren
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Got it. Thanks Loren and welcome home! I'm sure you're enjoying the winter blast.... :nono:
Chuck
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Winter blast.... not so much enjoyment on my part. I liked the weather in sunny Florida much better. I spent four hours yesterday clearing the driveway and quarter mile lane. Still have some left to do.
Loren
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Here's my final count on glove box liners:
Dan A.: 2 AC, 1 non-AC
Brian S.: 1 AC
Milton D.: 1 AC
Dan H.: 2 AC
John E.: 1 non-AC
Kevin C.: 1 AC, 1 non-AC
Glenn V.: 1 non-AC
Jon T.: 1 AC, 1 non-AC
Loren A.: 2 AC, 2 non-AC
Let me know by tomorrow morning if I have made an error in this summary. If not, I'll try to place the order in the next couple of days. I'll also be ordering a few to have on hand, so if you find others interested, let me know. I'll confirm final pricing when the order is placed.
:cheers2:
Chuck
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The liners were ordered today. I don't expect to receive them for 2-3 weeks, since they have to make them. I'll let you know when they are received and the cost for each.
I reconfirmed that Repops is interested in reproducing the glove box liner for the 66 Skylark with AC. So again, If any of you can come up with an original, we can send it to them and they'll tool it for reproduction.
Stay tuned!
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Chuck
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After one miscue by Repops that necessitated a second order, the glove box liners have arrived. And final costs have been determined. Shipping to you, if required, will be additional cost.
BU101 Non-AC liner: $10.00 each
BU285 AC liner: $12.00 each
I had planned to attend the annual 65GS meeting in Minneapolis the first weekend in May, and deliver many of these, but have a conflict and won't be there. But there will be a few additional opportunities to get these to you, if you don't want them shipped. For example, I plan to meet Mark, Brian and John E. in Auburn, IN on June 1. I can send all those destined for the Minnesota area with John and deliver Brian's to him there. I'll see Dan A., Kevin and Glenn in mid-June in Ft. Wayne at the HRPT. So, here's my plan for distribution as of now:
Deliver to John E. in Auburn, IN on June 1 for John E., Milton D., Jon T.
Deliver to Brian S. in Auburn, IN on June 1
Deliver to Dan A., Kevin C. and Glenn V. in Ft. Wayne, IN on June 13.
Ship to Dan H.
Loren: We'll talk.....
If anyone else wants their's shipped, let me know.
A summary of the orders is attached, including payment options.
I ordered a couple extra to have on hand in case others become interested.
And I know that many of you have made contributions to Loren to help maintain this site. But I would encourage others to do the same to share some of the savings resulting from this group buy.
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Chuck
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Chuck
Your plan for my AC glove box will work.
John doesn't live far from me so I can make arrangements with him to go pick it up.
I can't find your address so please PM me so I can send gold dust.
You have put a lot of effort into this and many other projects.
Thanks so very much.
Milton
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Thanks Milton, gold dust is welcome!
I see that the document I posted with payment and other info is a bit hidden above. It's the very first file reference above the first picture. So I'll repost it here where it will be the only hyperlinked file.
Chuck
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After one miscue by Repops that necessitated a second order, the glove box liners have arrived. And final costs have been determined. Shipping to you, if required, will be additional cost.
BU101 Non-AC liner: $10.00 each
BU285 AC liner: $12.00 each
I had planned to attend the annual 65GS meeting in Minneapolis the first weekend in May, and deliver many of these, but have a conflict and won't be there. But there will be a few additional opportunities to get these to you, if you don't want them shipped. For example, I plan to meet Mark, Brian and John E. in Auburn, IN on June 1. I can send all those destined for the Minnesota area with John and deliver Brian's to him there. I'll see Dan A., Kevin and Glenn in mid-June in Ft. Wayne at the HRPT. So, here's my plan for distribution as of now:
Deliver to John E. in Auburn, IN on June 1 for John E., Milton D., Jon T.
Deliver to Brian S. in Auburn, IN on June 1
Deliver to Dan A., Kevin C. and Glenn V. in Ft. Wayne, IN on June 13.
Ship to Dan H.
Loren: We'll talk.....
If anyone else wants their's shipped, let me know.
A summary of the orders is attached, including payment options.
I ordered a couple extra to have on hand in case others become interested.
And I know that many of you have made contributions to Loren to help maintain this site. But I would encourage others to do the same to share some of the savings resulting from this group buy.
:cheers2:
Chuck
Chuck , that works for me on my end .
Thanks for doing this .