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General Discussion => Q & A => Topic started by: nail lark on December 04, 2015, 07:03:19 AM

Title: release bearing
Post by: nail lark on December 04, 2015, 07:03:19 AM
HI; Now that the bell housing is on the way. My parts list shows that I am missing the piece that the release bearing presses on to. Is there a place that would stock that part. A picture would be good. Dimensions would be good . I have some off of older trucks and tractors.  One may be the same or close.
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: Dr Frankenbuick on December 04, 2015, 08:54:42 AM
The clip is tack welded to the TOB bearing.  Here is an old TOB and its attaching point:

Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: WkillGS on December 04, 2015, 10:16:36 AM
Sent you a PM!

Do you need the dust cover for the bellhousing?
Brian discovered the older Dynaflow covers could be modified to work.
I did a pictorial how-to here:
http://65gs.com/board/index.php?topic=1240.msg6794#msg6794 (http://65gs.com/board/index.php?topic=1240.msg6794#msg6794)
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: jmos4 on December 04, 2015, 12:06:02 PM
Hi,

Your throwout bearing is pressed on the holder and the clip is pop rivet on bearing holder or inner sleeve, the bearing is aviable from rock auto and you reuse the holder or not sure the name maybe Terrill machine somewhere in Texas has a complete nos for a late 30's early 40's Buick and is the same as 65-66 nailheads

I will see if I can find the place but maybe someoneelse can chime in

Regards,
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: Brian on December 04, 2015, 12:12:42 PM
Jim is correct on his description of the release bearing assembly.  Terril machine did have the complete assemblies, but no longer has them--I bought the last one from them about a year ago--all they have to sell now is the bearing, and you can get that at any auto parts store.  I have not been able to find another source for the collar with the clips on it.  If you don't have one, you are going to have to find a used one somewhere and replace the bearing on it. 
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: Dr Frankenbuick on December 04, 2015, 01:27:27 PM
Yes, looking at mine again it is riveted not tack welded.
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: 35chevcoupe on December 04, 2015, 07:09:30 PM
Does anyone have a part # for this bearing assembly ? oem # preferably .
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: WkillGS on December 04, 2015, 07:41:55 PM
It's 1319083.

Sometimes they show up on eBay. One just sold on eBay about 10 minutes ago. Glad you got it Morrie!

Here's another one I just found:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1940-1964-BUICK-DIFFERANT-SERIES-CLUTCH-RELEASE-BRG-OEM-1319083-/251785582697 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1940-1964-BUICK-DIFFERANT-SERIES-CLUTCH-RELEASE-BRG-OEM-1319083-/251785582697)

They were used on various models from 1940-66. Bet there are still lots of them sitting on shelves.
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: 35chevcoupe on December 04, 2015, 07:51:01 PM
Thanks Walt .
thats funny cause I just bought one off E-bay also . there must have been a few of them on there .
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: nail lark on December 04, 2015, 08:12:45 PM
Hi ; I bought a clutch assembly today from a local supplier . It came as a complete kit with bearing. It has a bearing much like the last one on ebay post but no clip.
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: BuickGS65 on March 26, 2018, 11:55:01 AM
It's 1319083.

They were used on various models from 1940-66. Bet there are still lots of them sitting on shelves.

I have not been able to find another source for the collar with the clips on it.  If you don't have one, you are going to have to find a used one somewhere and replace the bearing on it.


The clutch release clip is now reproduced; just need to add your 1505 bearing.
This is a reproduction of 1319083.

Sold by Bob's Automobilia. Part # BC-395

http://bobsautomobilia.com/clutch-items/1938-58-throwout-bearing-clip-assembly-.-bc-395/ (http://bobsautomobilia.com/clutch-items/1938-58-throwout-bearing-clip-assembly-.-bc-395/)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BUICK-1939-40-41-47-48-49-50-51-52-53-54-55-56-Clutch-Release-clip-assy-1319083/123041529455 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/BUICK-1939-40-41-47-48-49-50-51-52-53-54-55-56-Clutch-Release-clip-assy-1319083/123041529455)

Ebay name: buickcar
 
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: cwmcobra on March 26, 2018, 05:55:14 PM
Hey Dan,

Nice find on the throwout bearing clips.  So you would have to drill out the rivets on the repopped part and re-rivet to the correct TOB, correct?

Chuck
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: Brian on March 27, 2018, 06:50:42 AM
I followed the link and it says that it only fits Buicks up thru 1958.  Has anyone confirmed this will fit the 59-66 models?  I know the 1958 and older flywheel housings have a much smaller bore in them for the transmission to pilot into--is the input shaft and bearing retainer a smaller diameter as well? 
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: BuickGS65 on March 27, 2018, 11:40:34 AM
I followed the link and it says that it only fits Buicks up thru 1958.  Has anyone confirmed this will fit the 59-66 models?  I know the 1958 and older flywheel housings have a much smaller bore in them for the transmission to pilot into--is the input shaft and bearing retainer a smaller diameter as well?

I defer to Walt (see his post above)... But here are my thoughts:

(1) Group .799 Part # 1319083 fits:
LIMITED 1939 1942
CENTURY 1939 1942
CENTURY 1954 1955
ROADMASTER 1939 1942
ROADMASTER 1946 1948
SUPER 1953 1955
SPECIAL 1956 1958
LESABRE 1959 1960
LESABRE 1963 1963
WILDCAT 1963 1963
ELECTRA 1963 1963
So based on the above years, the 59-66 concern is eliminated? (Also see Jim jmos4 reply #3 above)

(2) Bob's only sells parts up to like 1958, so I'm not surprised his listing goes beyond that year.

(3) 1319083 cross references to 1367058
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: BuickGS65 on March 27, 2018, 11:42:15 AM
Hey Dan,

Nice find on the throwout bearing clips.  So you would have to drill out the rivets on the repopped part and re-rivet to the correct TOB, correct?

Chuck

I believe you just press on your new 1505 bearing onto the clip assembly.
https://www.teambuick.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-25245.php (https://www.teambuick.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-25245.php)
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: Brian on March 27, 2018, 12:50:12 PM
It definitely looks like the correct one.  Hopefully someone on here will order one soon and report back...
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: BuickGS65 on March 29, 2018, 06:15:35 PM
It definitely looks like the correct one.  Hopefully someone on here will order one soon and report back...

Anyone have the dimensions of an original?
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: BuickGS65 on March 31, 2018, 11:07:05 AM
Inside diameter is roughly 1 3/8 and the height (not including the clips) is roughly 1 5/16
Title: Re: release bearing
Post by: BuickGS65 on March 31, 2018, 08:14:55 PM
Inside diameter is roughly 1 3/8 and the height (not including the clips) is roughly 1 5/16

Anyone have an original one handy to confirm dimensions?