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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #210 on: August 12, 2024, 07:11:51 PM »
Hi Clatter,

Thanks for reading my posts.

My car is a Skylark, I'm not sure if the GS had a halo. I'm sure someone here will inform us.

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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #211 on: August 13, 2024, 07:46:39 AM »
Not to distract from this great thread,
But was halo trim an option for the GS?
Thought it was just a Skylark thing...  :dontknow:

  The "halo trim" was used only on the Skylark model in both '64 and '65. The Gran Sport had the trim sometimes referred to as "vinyl top" trim.

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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #212 on: September 06, 2024, 05:49:15 PM »
Attached are pics of our original paint Skylark with halo trim.

How cool is the two-tone?  :notworthy:

Maybe worth it to try and save?
Bet you that members here could help source some.
There are guys who restore things like these trim parts.
You can even do it yourself if you really knuckle into it.


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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #213 on: September 16, 2024, 05:54:02 PM »
Hi Buick Fans,

I have the 300 running again, never found the exact cause of the water leak that gave me trouble. Possible human error, time will tell.

Last Friday I took the chassis and motor to a shop and ran it on a dyno machine to give it a good run-in under load. Everything went well and we gave it a little horsepower test at the end.

The mighty stock 300ci produced 160 HP @4448 RPM at the back wheels. I'm about to start the steering wheel restoration (Thanks to Tony's motivation photos) in preparation of the shell returning back to my shed.

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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #214 on: September 16, 2024, 05:57:00 PM »
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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #215 on: September 16, 2024, 06:31:26 PM »
Congrats on all the progress. That's a really pretty chassis and driveline. Watching for more developments as they come along.

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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #216 on: September 16, 2024, 08:31:15 PM »
Looking really good, Marcus. And happy that the engine seems to be running well! Looking forward to the next update!

Chuck
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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #217 on: September 17, 2024, 11:13:11 AM »
  Slow and steady : Chassis and drivetrain look awesome. let us know if you need anything along the way.
I'm putting together part 3 of the steering wheel restoration, it should be posted tonight or tomorrow.

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Thanks for dyno results! (Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration)
« Reply #218 on: September 17, 2024, 03:10:02 PM »
Hi Marcus, Loren, Chuck, Tony, and mid-60s Buick caregivers,

Thank you for having your 300 cid tested and thanks even more for sharing with us!  I'm sure this car will bring much satisfaction for years to come!  Enjoy the final assembly!

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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #219 on: September 17, 2024, 06:19:03 PM »
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the comments regarding the 300.

It wasn't until I looked back through my posts, I realized I failed to let you guys know about the engine trouble I have encountered this year. Around the time I built the new shed the 300 was misfiring. After a quick inspection I noticed a bent push rod and seized exhaust valve on cylinder 3. After removing the inlet manifold, I discovered every cylinder was contaminated with water.

I assumed a cracked cylinder head, and set to making a test rig, testing each head for leaks. I blanked the water jackets off submerged in hot water then pressurized with air (photo below), all seemed ok. then I spoke with the guy who machined the engine components, after seeing my blanking plates (the hardest part as far as testing heads go) he let me use his test machine pumping hot water through the heads and then pressurizing, again no leaks the heads seemed ok.

I spoke with the mechanic who built the engine, he was suspicious there was a water leak in the block between the water jacket and a cylinder the result of corrosion from sitting for so many years. I spoke with the machinist regarding this theory, he suggested (and I know this sounds primitive..) to bolt 1 head on and seal the water pump, turn the engine on the stand so the block without the head is facing up. Fill the water jacket with petrol and inspect for leaks. The results were interesting however no leaks. The day I did the test was warm and sunny, I filled the water jacket until it was full to the brim, I watched for a while and nothing happened, I walked away and left it. About an hour later I walked past and noticed a tiny drip falling from the crank (sump was off) I though this is it, I?ve found it, on close inspection the petrol had expanded in the sun, ran over the machined surface on the block where the head bolts on down at cylinder #8 ran past the piston and down to the crank. At that point realized how the smallest of leaks is easy to see doing this test and my block is ok.

From here I was still unsure, luckily Chuck had a mate with a spare 300, I bought it as my plan B. I purchased a set of push rods, new valves and gaskets and with a mate of mine who is a mechanic put the engine back together. After we did the first fire up, I took it into the dyno so I could run the cam in and test the engine under operating temperature and load. It all went well.

I have a few theories to what caused the failure, me doing short runs after rebuilding and not getting correct temperature, using coolant from the start (a few old school mechanics have suggested never use coolant before an engine is properly run in), incorrect inlet manifold gasket used from kit, incorrect torque on LHS head, I checked RHS it was correct. To be honest I don?t know however time will tell and I have a spare engine in transit (thanks Chuck).

Has anyone encountered a similar problem after a rebuild? It's frustrating to not find the point of failure.

I dropped into the panel shop yesterday, didn?t get to see my Skylark as it was late and the shed its in was locked. My mate who is doing the body work told me he has painted the underside and inner guards. The body is 80% block sanded and should be painted soon.

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Marcus

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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #220 on: September 18, 2024, 02:03:16 PM »
Thanks Marcus for sharing your curious tale about your first 300 cid.

Unfortunately, you might never find out the cause.  Fortunately, at least there is a happy ending to this story!  Hopefully, this is the end of the gremlins interfering with your restoration!

Edouard

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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #221 on: September 19, 2024, 10:20:17 AM »
Stoked to see posts on the thread.

Also glad to see someone else flummoxed by head gasket failure.
I did the exact same thing on a Fiat (never again).
Took it apart, nothing wrong, reassemble, leaks again.

Solution this time is to replace the block and head!  :angry5:

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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #222 on: September 26, 2024, 11:55:16 PM »
Hi Buick Fans,

I'm shopping again and seeking some advice on a few parts.

Windscreen wiper motor, how do I tell if mine is 1 speed or two? I'm looking at an OPG Part# CH20280.

Can anyone advise the correct wiper washer bottle, is there any advice on the correct washer pump and hose kit? I'm looking at OPG Part# CT20305 and Part# CH33728.

Rear seat rubber bumper, how can I tell if I need a round or oval shape?

I dropped into the panel shop yesterday, shell is ready for paint. I'm about to go over there and take the shell off the rotisserie and place it on the trolley so it can be wheeled into the spray booth. It's been 2 months longer than expected, however expect a coat of paint next week. Inside hood and trunk are painted, inside doors and sills are done, dash has been painted blue.

Have a good weekend

Marcus

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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #223 on: September 27, 2024, 08:47:46 AM »
Despite the delay, that's great progress, Marcus! It's fun when it all starts to come together!

The washer bottle can be purchased from Fusick: https://www.fusickautomotiveproducts.com/prodinfo.asp?number=WJ6405

I hope others can chime in on your other questions.

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Chuck

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Re: 65 Skylark Down Under Restoration
« Reply #224 on: September 27, 2024, 10:37:43 AM »
Hello Marcus,

 The washer solvent tank CT20305 is correct for the '65 Buick Skylarks.
I think the Windscreen wiper motor looks correct, but I will have to take a look at mine to be certain. As for the washer pump kit CH33728, that is not correct. The original washer pump is part of the Windscreen wiper motor.
 The correct rubber seat bumper is round. The oval style is for '66.

   Loren
65 GS hardtop BCA Senior
 65 GS thin pillar coupe
 65 Skylark coupe v-6
 65 GS hardtop restoration project
 65 Sport Wagon
 70 GS 455 htp / original engine
 94 Roadmaster wagon
 96 Roadmaster wagon- parts car
 63 Riviera
 Shuman 65 Gran Sport convertible, current caretaker

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