Secret experimental 1964 GX 455

[elagache]

Dear Bill, Walt, Dan, and mid-60s Buick interior decorators,

I like the gauges in the 64 Mike; got some better pics and size etc??     ws

You can't do that!  Where will you put the center A/C duct? . . . 

Are you referring to Michael's (TrunkMonkey) 64 'Lark?  The photo in this posting?

http://65gs.com/board/index.php/topic,4251.msg31167.html#msg31167

I've forgotten, but I thought more than one person has reused the area above the radio for the gauges.  Can anybody else chime in on examples?  Certainly you can poke Michael and ask him how he did it!  Here is his 65GS.com contact page:

http://65gs.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=985

Cheers, Edouard 

P.S. So what are your thoughts with respect to air conditioning?  If you put the gauges above, you certainly could go with an underdash unit and there are some reproduction underdash unites that look great.  On the other hand, given your skills as finding barn stuff, maybe you could come up with an aftermarket unit for the 1960s and make that work!

[yachtsmanbill]

My moms' 64 had a dealer installed under the dash unit and it was cool (cold LOL).  I went the whole restored and re-orificed unit on my 72 and blows cold air with the 134. I did all the install stuff but had problems with the POA valve. A guy on V8 re-orificed it and I vac'd the system but had the local guy charge it. They retrofit a lot of old cars... alsa, he has a dodge tho 

I like Mikes gage deal... he'll be here tonight Im sure.

Gonna order that hump right now Walt! IT BETTER FIT haha... 

So today the whole state was advised to stay home due to icing. Yeah, it was treacherous. I had to spread sand on the drive to the shop. it was BAD... So whatcha do on a ice day? Clean bolts, lotsa bolts. This is 4 hours worth on the wire wheel and a wash in the tank. Theres 3 more coffee cans to go plus assorted sundries. Also an hour cleaning off the bench in the new, 3 year old garage and finally put a shelf up. I felt like a barbarian; the table saw is packed away in the shop so I had to cut a 6 foot long 3/4 mahogany plank (!) with my skil saw.   

Brian... take yer time on the box. You have bigger fish to fry!    ws

[yachtsmanbill]

So I just ordered the hump, ring and boot. The hole is round in the boot and I have a Hurst shufter. Hmmm. Another modification. They got me tho... I thought it was free shipping but they hit me with 16.00+. They are sending me a feedback call, so Ill rag at them then LOL...    ws

[elagache]

Dear Bill and mid-60s Buick caregivers,

My moms' 64 had a dealer installed under the dash unit and it was cool (cold LOL). 

Cool man!   I remember as a kid looking longingly at the aftermarket air conditioner units that were for sale at the Sears auto shop during the early 1970s.  However, Dad wasn't going spend money on such luxuries.  So I had to wait almost 50 years before getting air conditioning in my trusty wagon!

I went the whole restored and re-orificed unit on my 72 and blows cold air with the 134. I did all the install stuff but had problems with the POA valve. A guy on V8 re-orificed it and I vac'd the system but had the local guy charge it. They retrofit a lot of old cars...

So I suppose with one classic Buick that has A/C you can live with your 64 without it.

I like Mikes gage deal... he'll be here tonight Im sure.

I do hope somebody will dig up a relevant thread.  I don't think Michael was the first to put the gauges above the radio.

So today the whole state was advised to stay home due to icing. Yeah, it was treacherous.

Large parts of the country are unusually cold at the moment.  We had snow on some of the higher peaks last week and Seattle is apparently in a real mess because of the snow.  So be careful and safe!

Cheers, Edouard 

[yachtsmanbill]

Whadda ya nuts or sumptin? Finished up cleaning all the hardware and some brackets (with paint) etc. This is all gonna make so much easier putting the Special all back together again. Probably get the engine back this next week I hope and can start on that project.   ws

 

[WkillGS]

So I just ordered the hump, ring and boot. The hole is round in the boot and I have a Hurst shufter.....

The hole will stretch. I've had that round hole boot on the Hurst shifter in my Special for over 10 years now.
There is a repo Olds 67-up boot the 68-72 GS guys use but it's $60 and so big it looks rather obnoxious.

[yachtsmanbill]

Thats a relief Walt! Thanks for the support!! I meant to send a KUDOs about yer floor job. It looks great. Im pretty fortunate that mine is 100% solid. I even saw the gas pedal ball mounting plate when underneath the other day; INTACT! Im gonna pull the seat and rugs out for the hump job and paint the floor while Im in there.

On another note, I sold some stuff to guys here off the Fireball V6. I promised to include the fasteners, which I think I neglected to send along with. All the bolts are cleaned now and if anyone needs/is missing the hardware, please speak up and theyll go out in a padded envelope ASAP. ON ME! Thats timing cover bolts, valve cover stuff and rocker shaft bolts. If I missed anything, Bark At Me LOL!!! Need sizes tho; the stuff is all on the bench. See pics!  ws

[elagache]

Dear Bill and 65GS.com railfans,

. . . .
See pics!  ws

But, but, but . . . . . . Those are railroad pictures!

I had to look it up, the locomotive is one of the Union Pacific gas turbine designs that ran during the 1960s:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_GTELs

Okay, okay, if you could get your Buick in front of that it sure would make for a period correct photos.

On the other hand if you are a serious fan of Union Pacific motive power, you might be drawn more to something like this!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_Big_Boy



Union Pacific Big Boy #4014 is currently undergoing restoration with the hope of having it running for the 150 anniversary of the golden spike ceremony which connected the transcontinental railroads.  The anniversary is coming up this May 10th!  We'll see if the restoration shops can pull it off.

Cheers, Edouard 

[yachtsmanbill]

My fellow Americans, who are about to embark on a great crusade...and happen to love trains while yer at it;

   Pretty cool... That was the BIG BOY thats been stored since retired in Colton, Ca. before being transferred to  Cheyenne, Wyoming. We have one in Green Bay thats static along with the Gen. Dwight  D. Eisenhower, a British loco that was lent to the GBRR (Great Britain Rail Road) for their 75th anniversary of the class's world record breaking 126 mph run a few years ago. It was returned to its original livery for the event.

Theres a ton of history behind this stuff which helped make the USA #1.  Heres a little placard thats on the UP GT loco in Union, Il. The snow blower is a different unit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific_4014

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_Class_A4_4496_Dwight_D_Eisenhower

[option B9]

  Bill & Edouard  Thanks for the photos and the information about the trains, I enjoy anything relating to American transportation history, that's what made America great ! Cheers  to all of the Great Americans that keep our country moving forward , Automotive, Aviation, Railroads, Maritime, & our dedicated American Truckers,
     "We must look back before we can move forward"   Tony

[yachtsmanbill]

Spoken like a True American!  Same here; anything transportation, production machining , power plant design and operations, and the whole different skill set that young minds today cant appreciate what the building blocks were...  ws

[elagache]

Dear Bill, Tony, and mid-60s Buick owners who also have an itch for things on rails,

. . . . .
The snow blower is a different unit.

For shame!  That sir is a rotary snow plow!  

Here is the Wikipedia article about it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_snowplow

Before I switched to modeling logging railroads I was modeling Southern Pacific and 'Espee' had quite a few of these machines to keep the mainline over the Sierra Nevadas open.  So of course I had to model one of these!  On the to-do list is to add a rotary snow plow to my logging line.  One company actually cobbled one together from a old locomotive.

Southern Pacific is known to have creating one of the most unique locomotive designs in the world in their "Cab Forward" type:

https://www.steamlocomotive.com/locobase.php?country=USA&wheel=4-8-8-2&railroad=sp



These locomotives moved the cab to the front to reduce the problem of smoke interfering with the operating crews while going though all the tunnels and snow sheds of the Sierra Nevada mainline.  Since these locomotives were burning fuel oil, there was no problem to simply pump the fuel to the other end of the locomotive.  So the combustion chamber was right behind the cab as in conventional steam locomotives.  256 Cab Forward locomotives were built for Southern Pacific, but alas, only one survives as a static display: #4294.  At least it is well cared for and has a place of honor in the Sacramento Railroad museum.

That's your United States railroad motive power lesson today!

Cheers, Edouard 

P.S. So how many times have I (and Biquette) gone to the Sacamento Railroad museum?  More than I can possibly remember! 

[yachtsmanbill]

Ill bet the engineers thought of that cab forward as a Godsend! No smoke and the fresh air in your face instead of cooking on top of the deck plates. Imagine running across the flats from Yuma to Temecula on a hot summer day? Whew! Burning more than a blistered wu$$y in a pepper patch! Maybe stop for a swim in the Salton Sea? NOT!  ws


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OgSNQOTw2U

[yachtsmanbill]

I havent had the pleasure of conversing with bobbybuick here, but saw a pic of his post car and like the stance. Just PMd him. Is he still around? This is the look Im after with the Chevy Rally wheels.  ws

[Loren At 65GS]

I havent had the pleasure of conversing with bobbybuick here, but saw a pic of his post car and like the stance. Just PMd him. Is he still around? This is the look Im after with the Chevy Rally wheels.  ws

 He hasn't been on since Dec 28,2018. I would suggest an email to him.

  Loren