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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #1125 on: June 03, 2020, 04:55:02 PM »
Bill that looks great with the trim back on it. Its a trip back to 1964 (when I was two).

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #1126 on: June 03, 2020, 05:56:42 PM »
Thanks Doc! Every now and then I find another chunk to toss at it... still being fun! The work starts next October; Chapter III

Thanks for the pictures!  On the third photo there is a US World War II fleet submarine in the background - which sub did they preserve?

Hey Ed... thats the USS COBIA. Actually built at Electric boat in 1943 I believe, its identical to the 28 subs built by Manitowoc Ship in town here. She saw South Pacific service, and unfortunately is closed due to this flu thing everyone is talking about. Across the lake is the USS SILVERSIDES. Another museum boat in Muskegon, Mich.   Bill

https://www.google.com/search?q=uss+cobia&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS856US856&oq=USS+COBIA&aqs=chrome.0.0l8.4943j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Ol' Pops was a EMD test engineer and test ran several of these units that were powered as this one is with Cleveland 278A engines. The other subs were powered by Fairbanks Morse 38D, 8-1/8; as is the SILVERSIDES. Those are twin crankshaft opposed piston jobs. Both deliver around 1000 horses.

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« Reply #1127 on: June 04, 2020, 01:09:57 PM »
Dear Bill, Good Dr., and mid-60s Buick caregivers,

Hey Ed... thats the USS COBIA. Actually built at Electric boat in 1943 I believe, its identical to the 28 subs built by Manitowoc Ship in town here. She saw South Pacific service, and unfortunately is closed due to this flu thing everyone is talking about. Across the lake is the USS SILVERSIDES. Another museum boat in Muskegon, Mich.

Thanks for the pointer!  Here is the link to museum's main page on their submarines:

https://www.wisconsinmaritime.org/submarines/

I didn't even know any seagoing vessels were built in fresh water locations!  It staggers the imagination the extent the United States was mobilized for World War II.

Thanks for sharing!

Cheers, Edouard  :occasion14:

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #1128 on: June 04, 2020, 02:23:38 PM »
Pretty cool eh? Keep reading Ed! The MLWD (Mean Low Water Datum) on all the inland seas and rivers is 12 feet. Thats not to mean they cant be 1200 feet deep, but the guarantee is a 12 foot minimum. Empty ships on the lake draw up to 12 feet EMPTY, but the rivers are held in "pools" via the locks and dams. Full ships on the lakes need to pay particular attention to drafts when transiting harbors and channel marked reefs etc.

After building the subs, and some ships, the conning towers and pilot houses had to be added later due to "air clearances" on the bridges.

The subs draw about 20 feet and some ships also draw more than the 12 so they were delivered under power to Chicago, then "dismasted" and slipped into "drydock barges" and floated to New Orleans Naval Yard for delivery. Going east the St Lawrence seaway wasnt opened yet so the Erie Canal was used. The MLWD there is about 10 feet with air gaps on certain bridges at less than 20 feet... more planning ahead. Some of these numbers have changed in the last 75 years (!) but you get the idea.

So the old man was a test engineer for EMD and compiled performance data for the Navy on deliveries, my mom was the cook on board for the entire 2-3 week delivery run, AND her first husband (she was widowed in 1950) was the delivery captain. Thats where they all met up!

Subs, sub chasers, mine sweepers, and tugboats were barq' de guerre (sp) built on the lakes.  The pics below are with mom and her first husband Art Z., Art Z. giving orders aboard a newly launched PC at far right (sub chaser) PC 538 and the  PC 537 on sea trials on Lake Michigan.    :icon_salut: :icon_salut: Bill

https://researchandideas.com/index.php?title=America%27s_Fresh_Water_Submarines



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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #1129 on: June 04, 2020, 05:28:42 PM »
Fantastic interesting information! Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #1130 on: June 11, 2020, 06:51:24 PM »
Sorry I havent been around too much lately... Yesterday out 10 year old Boston terrier, BULLITT the wonder dog died on my lap at home from advanced canine leukemia. At first, a month ago, it was a bad sinus infection. Then Monday due to a terrible weight loss and blood test, he was diagnosed with 2 weeks to a month to go. The poor guy lasted two days. We had him scheduled to see the Vet that afternoon to end his suffering at 3:30 but he passed at 11:30. He was soo weak; his last move was to look up into my eyes and say goodbye. He was gone. He's jammin' gears across the rainbow bridge as we speak.

He was buried in our raspberry patch that he loved so much in a nice sunny spot with his favorite blanky and big ol' hambone; he loved laying in the sun too. RIP old buddy... :angel4: :angel4:    Bill and Pat

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #1131 on: June 11, 2020, 07:39:34 PM »
Sorry for your loss Bill.
Dogs truly are our best friends, they understand us better than we do ourselves, their always there and they never complain.
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #1132 on: June 11, 2020, 07:52:51 PM »
My condolences to you and Pat. Losing a close companion like Bullitt is difficult.

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« Reply #1133 on: June 11, 2020, 09:14:34 PM »
 Sorry to hear about this. Glad you have fond memories!
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #1134 on: June 12, 2020, 07:30:55 AM »
Condolences to you and Pat.  Dogs are family members and it's really sad to lose them.  RIP Bullitt!

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #1135 on: June 12, 2020, 11:06:24 AM »
My condolences...RIP Bullitt
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #1136 on: June 12, 2020, 02:29:31 PM »
I sure am sorry to hear about Bullitt. Hope y'all are doing ok. Condolences.
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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #1137 on: June 12, 2020, 07:56:03 PM »
Im sure he's ready for that power shift into 4th at the rainbow bridge just about now! Thanks guys! He was a mold breaker thats for sure!   RIP pal! On the couch keeping his slicks warmed up LOL...   :occasion14: Bill

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Re: Secret experimental 1964 GX 455
« Reply #1138 on: June 13, 2020, 01:43:13 PM »
Bill and Pat,

  So sorry to hear of your loss. Those little friends certainly leave their paw prints on our hearts.

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« Reply #1139 on: June 13, 2020, 01:54:11 PM »
Dear Bill and Pat,

Belated condolences from me.  Everyone else has said it better than I could.

Edouard