Thanx so much for quick reply and description. At the least, as these cars are found in this state, I'm happy to harvest the organs, If you will, I was surprised to find one there at all and especially with the front fender vents still in place and it provided replacements for another's project. I would be surprised if its still lying there, but they don't crush the old stuff there(years go by quickly,so?) Stuff stored outside with no cover, so typical up nort detioration. Place has been in the local Gopher monthly the Porthole, but all this old guy only remembers it starts with a K, maybe Milton Dale can help with full name, not many yards in Trego WI! Thanx again, Greg