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Re: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2015, 03:42:44 PM »
Thanks for the pictures Mark.  The Midnight Aqua is nice, but being a Michigan State Spartan, Verde Green is more like the color of my blood! 

Believe it or not, that might play a role in my color decision.......

Chuck
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Re: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2015, 07:02:14 PM »
Disassembly has begun!  Pretty easy stuff, but at least the project has been officially kicked off.  I'll receive my Body manual next week and can dive into removing the interior using it as a resource.  Long road ahead!

Cheers!

Chuck
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Re: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2015, 07:06:19 PM »
An unrelated question.....does anyone sell an aftermarket air conditioning system for the 65 GS?  I suppose the dilemma would be the vents in the dashboard.  Any way around that?  Buy a different dash?

Thanks,

Chuck
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Re: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2015, 11:39:41 AM »
Chuck,

I think the plan you have for the car is great. A Gran Sport with those updates will always be desirable if done right.
Can't tell you much about AC, other than non AC cars have been changed to AC. The dash pieces can be had from
any 65 Skylark/GS/wagon, etc. with AC. or you could just do an underdash deal. One of the cleanest aftermarket
installs I've ever seen was on Roger Sears 65 GS. His car is awesome.

Check out Vintage Air and Classic Auto Air.

Mark
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Re: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2015, 04:18:14 PM »
 Mark, good pics of Rodgers car.

Seeing how Rodger incorporated the vintage system makes for a really clean engine compartment. The interior is just as clean and shows no sign of an aftermarket system like the type that hangs under the dash.

If I remember correctly,  he used a Sanyo compressor and a particular rear plate where the hoses attach. That allowed the compressor lines to turn down.

Definitely a sweet installation/

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After-market A/C requires "mods" . . (Re: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project)
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2015, 09:12:27 PM »
Dear Chuck and mid-60s Buick fans,

An unrelated question.....does anyone sell an aftermarket air conditioning system for the 65 GS?

The honest answer is - no.  You can't buy a plug and play system for a Buick.  I was able to get a 1964-67 Pontiac GTO vintage air system to work in my trusty wagon, but you need to come up with your own compressor bracket, modify the controls to match the Buick A/C controller and "splice" the ducting into the original 1965 GS air vents.  Also, you'll need a custom glove box liner that is much smaller than the original.  The Vintage Air evaporator unit takes up a lot of the space that was formerly for the glove compartment.  Also, you need to swap the condenser that comes with the GTO kit for one that will fit in front of your Buick radiator.

You can also get fancy about the routing of the refrigerant and heater hoses to keep the engine bay clean.  I had the fellows who were installing the custom big-block Buick engine I had ordered for my wagon did all that "super-deluxe" stuff.  The Vintage Air system seemed to work fine.  Alas, the custom engine didn't.  :angryfire:  That's another story.

If you are really interested in going with an after-market A/C setup, send me a PM and I can share with you the "ups and downs."

Cheers, Edouard

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Re: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2015, 01:15:04 PM »
All

Good discosion on aftermarket Air Conditioning for 65 A body.

Fortunately for me 3 of my 65 GS have/had Factory Air.

Looking at my factory setup it seems like the heater box and controls would be a big undertaking to mix with aftermarket AC.

I have added a few more pictures of the Roger Sears aftermarket setup that I think he didn't try to mix with the factory.

It looks like he used vents in and under the dash and put the works behind the glove box with the controls at the bottom of the dash.

In the engine area he used a compressor with reversed hoses to go down and cut/smoothed some of the compressor mounting tabs.

To say Roger is a very gifted fabricator is a big understatement.

Unfortunately he isn't a computer person to explain how he did all this but it is a joy to see his car in person.

I don't think I have ever seen a cleaner modified engine compartment that I would rather have.

Milton

 

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Re: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2015, 01:23:16 PM »
Additional Roger Sears aftermarket AC installation Interior

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Re: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2015, 01:29:14 PM »
Last Roger Sears aftermarket AC installation.

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Raising the bar (Was: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project)
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2015, 09:18:11 PM »
Dear Milton and mid-60s Buick fans,

Well, . . . . I have very little to be proud of with respect to my trusty wagon project.  But the installation of the Vintage Air setup in my wagon is one of them.  Here is what the driver's area looked like before:



Here is what it looked like after the installation of Vintage Air (and a whole bunch of other goodies:)



Here is the old Custom Autosound stereo from the mid 1990s:



Here is the new Custom Autosound 630 stereo and the twin round vents for the air conditioner:



Perhaps most important of all, here is the old glove compartment:



and here is the new one:



Smaller yes, but you can still use it!

Want a photo of the engine bay?  Okay here's one:



Nothing to be ashamed there . . . . if the rear crankshaft bearing hadn't failed . . . .  :crybaby2:

Edouard


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Re: Raising the bar (Was: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project)
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2015, 09:39:42 PM »
Dear Milton and mid-60s Buick fans,

Well, . . . . I have very little to be proud of with respect to my trusty wagon project.  But the installation of the Vintage Air setup in my wagon is one of them. 

Edouard

Some really nice work there, Edouard!  What does the custom compressor bracket look like?
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Re: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2015, 09:53:56 PM »
Last Roger Sears aftermarket AC installation.

Milton

Thanks for the pictures, Milton.  Roger obviously does some nice work!  I've got a couple of examples of potential A/C installations to consider.....

Chuck
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Re: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2015, 10:19:22 PM »
Chuck,

I think the plan you have for the car is great. A Gran Sport with those updates will always be desirable if done right.
Can't tell you much about AC, other than non AC cars have been changed to AC. The dash pieces can be had from
any 65 Skylark/GS/wagon, etc. with AC. or you could just do an underdash deal. One of the cleanest aftermarket
installs I've ever seen was on Roger Sears 65 GS. His car is awesome.

Check out Vintage Air and Classic Auto Air.

Mark

Thanks for your comments, Mark.  Looks like I need to do more research on adapting A/C with or without a factory dash.  Both Roger's and Eduardo's installs are really nice.  Look for dash panels on ebay & CL?  And here, of course!

Chuck
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1965 Skylark GS Convertible = Verde Green / 401 / 2 x 4 BBL / 4-speed (restoring)
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Re: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2015, 08:58:25 AM »
Edouard

Your pictures demonstrate a purdy advanced skill set if you ask me.

Nice job!

Thanks for sharing with the rest of us.

A big part of this web site for me is to help advance the cause of our early GS and Buick A bodies.

Your posts and comments over time have definitely supported that line of thinking.

Thanks again for sharing.

Your Radio sure looks a lot better than your early one. Did you have to modify the dash panel? How about the Speakers?

The Glove Box looks very useful. Did you cut it down or are they available that way?

Milton



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Re: Raising the bar (Was: Ginky Weeds Restoration Project)
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2015, 10:53:53 AM »
Dear Milton and mid-60s Buick fans,

Well, . . . . I have very little to be proud of with respect to my trusty wagon project.  But the installation of the Vintage Air setup in my wagon is one of them.
Edouard

I'll agree with Milton and Chuck, very nice indeed.

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