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444675 4 speed restoration
« on: September 12, 2015, 08:08:58 PM »
Okay, here goes.  This journey begins 20 years ago this year.  I really wanted an LS6 Chevelle.  Couldn't find one so I thought I settled on a beautiful 72 Hurst Olds Indy Pace Car.  Turned out it had the wrong motor and the seller was misrepresenting it.  When my father in law heard I was struggling to find a project, and that I was preparing to spend an inordinate amount of money on something, he decided to offer up his 65 skylark.  Truth be told, he had no idea what this thing was.  He was convinced that the dealer put the 401 in the car at his request.  When in fact what happened was, he walked into the dealer in late 64 and drove a wildcat and a skylark.  He told the dealer, "if I can get that car (skylark) with that motor (wildcat) I'll buy it.  "Sold!" the dealer said.  Of course he simply ordered up a 65 GS for the old man and the rest is history.  From 65 to 85, this was the only car he had.  He drove it every day for everything.  My wife was brought home from the hospital in it and learned to drive in it.  Spokane Wa is not the most forgiving environment, but the car held up quite well.  In 85 he bought a pickup and parked the car.

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Re: 444675 4 speed restoration
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2015, 08:10:04 PM »
The day we picked up the car.  No idea what I was in for....

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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2015, 08:11:51 PM »
Disassembly begins.  We made a sweet 4x4 wood dolly with casters on it to roll the body around.  Welded some braces in the doors to keep it sturdy.  Worked exceptionally well

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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2015, 08:14:17 PM »
Off to media blast.  The guy that did it was a real stud.  He picked it up, blasted it all with sand and beads where appropriate, and delivered it to the body shop for $850.  Very little rust on the quarters, the trunk was rotten from all of the nefarious things the rats were doing in there. 

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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2015, 08:16:23 PM »
The guy that did the frame was bat shit crazy.  Too many paint fumes I think.  He had a motorcycle helmet painted with the paint used on the frame and proceeded to bash it on the floor like a crazy person to show how tough the paint was.  It was pretty tough.

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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2015, 08:21:23 PM »
Motor.  We got a lot of help from Russ at Centerville auto.  We tried to put hardened seats in and effed the heads up.  Russ found me replacements.  We were going to lower the compression so we ordered some custom made forged pistons which Russ talked us into not using due to the 401's notoriously bad flame spread.  (if you want some blower pistons, hit me up) It's almost done.  We got a couple of bad oil pumps so that is holding me up.  The carb I had restored at Vintage Muscle Car Parts back east.  Came out beautiful.  I will post photos of that in the coming days.

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2015, 08:22:58 PM »
More motor pics

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Re: 444675 4 speed restoration
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2015, 08:56:48 PM »
Thanks for the pictorial summary, Todd.  I love the history of the car and that it's still in the family.  You're well on your way to completion and looking great!  Keep the updates coming and thanks for starting this thread.  We all learn from each project that we follow.

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Thanks for sharing. (Re: 444675 4 speed restoration)
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2015, 09:16:49 PM »
Dear Todd, Chuck and mid-60s Buick fans,

Thanks Todd for sharing the story of this car.  It is a very different situation from my trusty wagon.  My wagon has been in continuous service from 1968 to basically 2010 with down time for engine rebuilds and routine maintenance.  Also, my wagon is a born and raised California car.  She hasn't needed the frame off restoration because she has been mostly garage kept so she remains remarkably rust free.

Your GS indeed needs a lot more luv' than my wagon does.  However, you seem to making good progress and what you don't know - you now know where to ask!  As you have learned the hard way, it is a lot of work.  Still savor the project and don't try to rush it.  It is like trying to push on a rope - it just won't werk!

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Re: 444675 4 speed restoration
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2015, 10:23:58 PM »
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Nice story Todd, keep the posts coming. 


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Re: 444675 4 speed restoration
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2015, 10:37:36 PM »
Looking good Todd .
Looking for to following along .
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2015, 10:57:41 PM »
Nice job and great story! Thanks for sharing!
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2015, 01:44:46 AM »
Very very cool story. And  such a awesome car. This isn't the 65 thats at pats shop in Bremerton is it? Pat had called me about some 65 taillights about 6 months ago.  Just curios. He was telling me about a 4 speed convert. And there definitely not to many around Washington.  I live in Bremerton Washington and I have two 66 Gs's and my dad has two 65 Gs's . Very nice Gs


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Re: 444675 4 speed restoration
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2015, 01:57:16 PM »
Very very cool story. And  such a awesome car. This isn't the 65 thats at pats shop in Bremerton is it? Pat had called me about some 65 taillights about 6 months ago.  Just curios. He was telling me about a 4 speed convert. And there definitely not to many around Washington.  I live in Bremerton Washington and I have two 66 Gs's and my dad has two 65 Gs's . Very nice Gs


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One and the same.  We found some tail lights in Oregon, perhaps based on your tip??  I will post some pics of them, they were quite nice.

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Re: 444675 4 speed restoration
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2015, 02:04:48 PM »
Sweet.  Yep you guys got them from my buddy john in oregon.  They were in really nice shape.  Awesome , glad I could help ya out. Can't wait to see more pics of your vert and in person. Nice to see another one in town.


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