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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2013, 06:20:39 PM »
I just checked the cowl tag on my GS. It's a May built car with a 4-speed. It has an "S" on the cowl beneath all of the other info. Just turned 48,052 miles.

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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2013, 08:49:58 PM »
I found the tag I was talking about.  Came off of a 65 GS that was either a 3 or 4 speed originally.  This was an early build, small emblem car. 
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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2013, 09:01:52 AM »
Here is a picture of the tag from my car.

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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2013, 01:17:45 PM »
John, I have found only one other 2D car in my info ( did not write down what options car had)
but not sure what this one means? I wonder if Ted's car
was a radio or heater delete car? I will dig through the files and post
the codes that I have info on! with what they mean!

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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2013, 06:19:12 PM »
Here you got a pic. of my cowl tag.
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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2013, 10:03:46 PM »
I have found only one other 2D car in my info

There's a '66 build sheet in the Gallery... Literature, page 9.
2D= 'A/C prov dealer'
Ted mentioned his car has the firewall cutouts (and block-off plates) for A/C.
It's very possible the 2D code was also the 'A/C mod' in '65.
Walt K
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66 GS Silver Mist/black 401 4 spd
66 GS Flame Red/black 401 5 spd
66 GS Saddle Mist/black 401 L76 auto
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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2013, 10:18:56 PM »
I still have to check my skylark 4d to see if it has the 2D as it has the same a/c cut outs and plates.
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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2013, 09:51:14 PM »
Fellas, here are two cowl tags from 65 GS's i owned in the past.  the yellow one is from a numbers matching post car with the A/C prep panels on the firewall, the other is from a 65 GS post 3 speed

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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2013, 05:37:21 AM »
Here are the ones that I can find so far and remember
First group
W = tinted windshield
E = tinted glass all
O= painted top diffferent from rest of body
X= power windows
T= power bucket seat (drivers)
second group
B= 3spd trans for gs
F=consolette
G= floor shift auto console
K=factory A/C
L= 4spd trans
O= storage console
R=rear seat speaker
X= auto trans
third group
B=rear defogger
H= belt revel ( wide trim) wheel well trim
fourth group
F=remote mirror
S= Gran Sport ornamention
fifth group
K= door edge gaurds
W= chrome ( buckles) seat belts with retrators
5= plastic ( buckles) seat belts
I might be off on some of these so don't sue me ! I only have two bucks  to my name! :wave:

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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2014, 11:15:02 AM »
Why wouldn't the yellow tag has an S code on it? Thank you for sharing information. I hope to own a 65 down the road.
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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2014, 11:24:17 AM »
So, what does this one tell you about this car?

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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2014, 11:55:39 AM »
Jim,
 The yellow tag is from a Baltimore built car. The codes are different then those of the other assembly plants.

  Loren

Loren/ Jim,
   The yellow tag has the plant code of 'BF' which = Fremont, California. That plant didn't put the option codes on the cowl plate data tag, but instead used an undecipherable (to us) number (19350)that linked the car build to in-plant records (now long gone).
   FB= Flint, Michigan
   BAL= Baltimore, Maryland
 
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66 GS Astro Blue/blue 425 auto
66 GS Silver Mist/black 401 4 spd
66 GS Flame Red/black 401 5 spd
66 GS Saddle Mist/black 401 L76 auto
66 Special Flame Red/black 300 5 spd
65 GS vert Verde Green/ Saddle buckets 401 4 spd
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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2014, 12:04:42 PM »
Jim, the yellow tag is from a Z code Freemont CA Bulit car!.
the trim tag pictured reads   12-c  =Decemeber third week of 1964
                                          65 = year  44437 skylark v-8 hardtop        FB= Fint ,MI plant    57740 = unit number                                   
                                          138= black cloth vinyl bench seat              LL=midnight aqua top and bottom paint   
                                          2x= auto trans 2p= back up lights
 
 Hope this helps , the rivets on the trim tag also look different  then the ones that I have seen? Jon

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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2014, 12:16:12 PM »
the trim tag pictured reads   12-c  =Decemeber third week of 1964
                                          65 = year  44437 skylark v-8 hardtop        FB= Fint ,MI plant    57740 = unit number                                   
                                          138= black cloth vinyl bench seat              LL=midnight aqua top and bottom paint   
                                          2x= auto trans 2p= back up lights
 
 Jon

Jon, That's what I was going to say!
So Jon, this would be too early to be a GS correct?
The 2x also means it's not a 4 speed car.....it would be an '2L' code.

Jim, if this is the NYC car, I sort of recall something being wrong on the tag... and this would confirm that (it's been a couple of years).  When Ron's son bought the car, we did correspond about some of the details. I recall it did have the GS-only (big block) steering column in it, and IIRC, the GS-style boxed frame.
I wouldn't verify it's a real GS, but it does appear to have the correct parts.
There were threads about the car 4+ years ago when he bought it. V8Buick or the BPG site. I'll have to look.
It's still a good value for a great looking A/C 4 speed car, even if it turns out to not be authentic.
Walt K
Eastern Pa

66 GS Astro Blue/blue 425 auto
66 GS Silver Mist/black 401 4 spd
66 GS Flame Red/black 401 5 spd
66 GS Saddle Mist/black 401 L76 auto
66 Special Flame Red/black 300 5 spd
65 GS vert Verde Green/ Saddle buckets 401 4 spd
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Re: Does 'S' on cowl plate = GS option? (Balt-built cars)
« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2014, 12:34:40 PM »
Yes, the  early dated cars where built the second week of January ,the earlist known cars have date codes around this time!
Also a gs built at Flint would or should have bucket seats, code for console, and the S code to?! It doesn't mean that this car is not a real
gs , just maybe that the trim tag has maybe been replaced or is missing info? Jon