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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2012, 02:53:59 PM »
I bet that a 60's Riviera or Wildcat enthusiast would know the answer to that question. I wonder if the CA emissions air cleaner's hose location is specific to certain production years.

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2012, 03:06:19 PM »
Where is Ted when you need him ? LOL

The picture I posted (from the gallery actually) is a CA A/C car that was for sale at Almeida's Classic Cars a while back. A jewel. It had the black maintenance label on it. Is that correct for a chrome single four air cleaner ?

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2012, 03:18:35 PM »
John, those hoses & the breather are 65 Cal. only. The California cars had A.I.R. in 66.

Dan, unsure if those decals ever got installed on the accessory air cleaners.
Maybe some did - maybe some didn't. I have a picture buried somewhere of an NOS
chrome/valve cover kit with the box, and don't recall seeing the decal on it.

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2012, 03:23:20 PM »
In 66, the CA cars had a smog pump on them as Mark stated, and it sat at the top between the radiator hose and drivers side valve cover--right in the real-estate where the snorkle would be for a setup with the hose to the snorkle.  My theory is that they started changing over the air cleaners to the style with the breather tube going into the body instead of the snorkle sometime during late 65 GS production in preparation for the upcoming '66 GS models that would have the smog pump in that area and require the breather with the hose going into the body of the air cleaner. 
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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2012, 04:45:28 AM »
DL,

These are original 65 cables. The 65 GS all had bolt on terminals.

Mark
Brian,
is that a restoration battery ? or topper ? I haven't found a flat top battery yet, to use with a topper  that's as tall as an original. Using the factory hold down clamps, they are to short .

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2012, 04:49:01 AM »
John, those hoses & the breather are 65 Cal. only. The California cars had A.I.R. in 66.

Dan, unsure if those decals ever got installed on the accessory air cleaners.
Maybe some did - maybe some didn't. I have a picture buried somewhere of an NOS
chrome/valve cover kit with the box, and don't recall seeing the decal on it.

Mark
Oh great, going to have to crawl in the attic(187F  :angryfire:)  and check my chrome dress up kit for the emissions decal. I don't recall.

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2012, 07:54:06 AM »
DL

If you make it up in attic could you also check the markings on top of the oil fill cap? Which version of hose to valve cover do you have?

Thanks
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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2012, 08:50:58 AM »
I found this photo of a '65 Skylark GS engine bay from a Buick showroom literature piece introducting the 1965 GSs. It's shows a red positive battery cable. The photo is not clear enough to tell if it has spring ring or clamp style ends.

John

That's a nice piece of literature there John!

But I'm going to suggest that the early pics from Buick used in their advertising could be pre-production cars that don't necessarily have the exact same components as cars built on the assembly line. .... if only we could zoom in and read the cowl data plate we would have better information as to when that car was built! :icon_biggrin:  The masked-off cowl tag suggests a Flint-built car.

Magazine road tests from 1965 may show more examples of red vs black, spring vs bolt battery cables.
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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2012, 12:59:50 PM »
DL

If you make it up in attic could you also check the markings on top of the oil fill cap? Which version of hose to valve cover do you have?

Thanks
Milton
I have this filler cap. Can't say that it's correct.
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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2012, 01:02:31 PM »
I found this photo of a '65 Skylark GS engine bay from a Buick showroom literature piece introducing the 1965 GSs.

John
cool, the alternator arm appears bare with slight green overspray. And the hood latch is zinc dichromate like the master lid.

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2012, 01:56:03 PM »
This is a photo out of a 1965 Motor Trend road test of the 65 GS. Article was in black and white but it appears the positive battery cable is lighter than than the negative indicating a red positive cable.

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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2012, 02:47:22 PM »
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.... if only we could zoom in and read the cowl data plate we would have better information as to when that car was built!   The masked-off cowl tag suggests a Flint-built car.

The photo is not clear enough to read the trim tag. There is no date printed info, we can only speculate.

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the alternator arm appears bare with slight green overspray.

From the photo, the alternator arm is painted Buick engine green. However, the very tip appears to be rusty.

Here's a couple of other photos that you may find interesting. Note that the one photo has the larger grille emblem. In the other photo the wheel insert may appear to be black, but it's really the dark gray.

John
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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2012, 07:18:25 AM »
DL

Thanks for braving the weather in your attic.

Your Oil Fill cap pictured looks like it is also a valve cover breather. Is that true?

My Oil Fill cap looks more like a gas cap on the valve cover with AC stamped in it.

I have the California Beauty Kit with the hose attaching to the air cleaner body not the snorkel.

Thanks again for listing your information.

Milton
 
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Re: GS Battery cable source ?
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2012, 01:29:17 PM »
DL

Thanks for braving the weather in your attic.

Your Oil Fill cap pictured looks like it is also a valve cover breather. Is that true?

My Oil Fill cap looks more like a gas cap on the valve cover with AC stamped in it.

I have the California Beauty Kit with the hose attaching to the air cleaner body not the snorkel.

Thanks again for listing your information.

Milton
Sorry Milton, you asked for the cap not the breather. Still looking for it.
DL