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Projects & Restorations => Projects & Restorations => Topic started by: Jonesy on October 24, 2014, 07:12:56 PM

Title: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on October 24, 2014, 07:12:56 PM
I am in need of a few parts. I will PAY for theses items if they are not easily sourced but someone is willing to sell. It looks as though I will need the worn out bushings on the shift rod. I could use a new rubber shift boot for a non-console car, but I know these are next to impossible to procure. I have posted a few pics in hopes that someone will recognize some parts I may need. Don't be shy, help me spend my money. I only want to do this once.

I have a source for the original 11in. clutch and pressure plate. Don't know if that same source will have a throw-out bearing. Also need a tranny mount. The trans is the numbers matching trans and I'd like to keep all of the parts I purchase NOS, good used or exact reproductions. Help please.

Paints, is it safe to say Bill Hirsch will have all of the paints needed to redo this correctly? I plan on having the shift linkage powder coated the grey phosphate color.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: 65GS on October 24, 2014, 09:52:08 PM
don't know if it will help or not, but the last time I replaced my clutch & press. plate, I used a 67 vet. 427-435 hp unit. this was back in the 70's & I got it for a hefty price of $50.00. Never had a slipping problem, the old leg shore got a workout though!

Al
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Starc Traxler on October 24, 2014, 10:24:17 PM
WOW Mike that didn't take you long to do we just talked about this Friday at the GS Bats
Starc
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Mark Ascher on October 24, 2014, 10:49:00 PM
The boot shown in the pic is reproduced by the Buick Farm.
The far left of the top photo where the nut is shown; this should be a thick felt washer, not rubber as shown. I have these. Send me a pm for info.
A trans mount is the same as almost any mid-late 60s GM car w/manual trans. I went to a local O'Reilly's and picked one up.

Mark
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: WkillGS on October 25, 2014, 09:27:24 AM
If you need the upper z-bar bushings, Jan (GSSizzler) repo'd them.

Upper shift boot, non-console....  The repo Olds/later GS boot is avail from Fusick. It's a similar style but bigger than the early 65-66 style. I have one but don't like it as it just looks too big and goofy.
The console lower boot is still available. Shared by Chevelle, it's about $30. This one has an exposed retainer ring.
I have some pics of the original and lower boot here:
http://65gs.com/board/index.php?topic=200.msg1377#msg1377 (http://65gs.com/board/index.php?topic=200.msg1377#msg1377)

Rear trans mount... I've found the new ones are taller than the originals. I'll check my stock and post some measurements.

Upper z-bar-to- clutch pedal rod bushing:
This is a rubber bushing with metal sleeve. The Corvette rear sway-bar link bushing is very close. May have to grind the end to make it a bit shorter. Avail from Mike Garrison (on V8 Buick) or most vette suppliers:
http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corvette-sway-bar-link-bushing-rear-1965-1982.html (http://www.ecklerscorvette.com/corvette-sway-bar-link-bushing-rear-1965-1982.html)

Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on October 25, 2014, 04:22:00 PM
WOW Mike that didn't take you long to do we just talked about this Friday at the GS Bats
Starc

Starc,

   The Nats inspired me to get it done, no wasting time. I'm learning as I go.....
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Starc Traxler on October 25, 2014, 06:22:04 PM
I'm glad the Nats inspired you, looking forward to seeing you and your GS at next years Nats. Hopefully we can get some of the board members here to get there also for the 50th anniversary of the 65 GS. It was nice to meet you and put a face with your name.
Starc
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: dsags on October 26, 2014, 06:14:32 PM
The throw out bearing is still available. Mine was a National 1505. Remember they are pressed into the retainer.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Loren At 65GS on October 26, 2014, 10:55:33 PM
 Hopefully we can get some of the board members here to get there also for the 50th anniversary of the 65 GS.
Starc
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Already have my hotel room reserved.
The host hotel is filled. The 300 reserved rooms were sold out last month.

  Loren
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: dsags on October 27, 2014, 06:12:00 AM
Loren, Starc was at the GSCA Nationals in Bowling Green, KY not the BCA Nationals. He has a good point about attending that show in 2015.

Dan
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Starc Traxler on October 27, 2014, 07:02:47 AM
Did the GSCA set a official date for next year already?
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: dsags on October 27, 2014, 08:12:43 AM
http://buickgsclubofamerica.yuku.com/topic/2854/2015-Nats#.VE5EghZijDc (http://buickgsclubofamerica.yuku.com/topic/2854/2015-Nats#.VE5EghZijDc)

Looks like October 14 - 17 in 2015

Dan
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Starc Traxler on October 27, 2014, 09:55:33 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Loren At 65GS on October 27, 2014, 10:16:05 AM
My misunderstanding.

  Loren
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on October 27, 2014, 05:02:23 PM
Mark and Jan,

   PM's sent.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on October 27, 2014, 05:16:18 PM
A few more pics. The tranny mount writing is still visible along with a part number?
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: WkillGS on October 28, 2014, 12:03:57 AM
Found the pics of the repo boot vs the original from my '66 GS.
Notice how much bigger it is, plus it's for a rectangular shift handle.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on October 28, 2014, 07:18:35 AM
Walt,

  That is big, I was hoping to somehow glue or otherwise tac-weld the rip in my boot. It just keeps getting bigger.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: WkillGS on October 28, 2014, 09:04:25 AM
Maybe glue a piece of inner tube to the inside? Rubber cement would work.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: 65GS on October 28, 2014, 11:06:32 PM
Walt
the larger boot May? have been made for the older Hurst shifter. I installed one in my conv. in 1970. A lot of sites still insist that the 65 
GS came with the Hurst shifter, not the T handled round shifter. Where did you find the rectangle?

Al
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Brian on October 29, 2014, 06:03:57 AM
Mike,
  To repair your existing boot, go buy a tube of stuff called GOOP.  Clean the back side of  the torn area really good with some brake cleaner, then put a generous coat of GOOP over the tear from the back side. It will be good to go then.  I have used the stuff to repair holes in bicycle inner tubes and it never failed.  You can get it at any hardware or home improvement store. 
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on October 29, 2014, 12:10:32 PM
Thanks for the info Brian. I'm still waiting on a reply from Jan and Mark on the other pieces.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on October 31, 2014, 01:33:02 PM
We are moving right along. It's nice to have a bead blast cabinet available, and a lot of Go-Jo on hand. Transmission cross member is blasted, primed and painted. The shift linkage just needs to be painted and the drive shaft is well on it's way.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on November 03, 2014, 02:33:36 PM
A little help please. Is this pressure plate correct for my car, as in is this what would have come new from the factory? This is not the type that came out of the car. The one clutch disc is the old one and the other is the new one that came with the pressure plate. It has 10 spline and is 11 inches.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: 65GS on November 03, 2014, 03:48:08 PM
that is the 3 finger style, as far as I know you want the Diaphram type. I don't think Buick used the the 3 finger style.

Al :read2:
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on November 03, 2014, 04:12:27 PM
That's what Brian said also, thanks Al. I'll find one.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on January 30, 2015, 03:35:37 PM
Tranny has been rebuilt. New piece machined by a friend on his old school mill. Matching numbers tail shaft housing.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on January 30, 2015, 03:47:57 PM
More pics.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on January 30, 2015, 03:56:45 PM
More pics.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: GS66 on January 30, 2015, 05:42:11 PM
Looks good. I will have to check my boot in the 66. I have a Hurst shifter and think my boot has a round hole.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on January 31, 2015, 07:33:34 AM
Thanks Jim. I messed up the KR, hopefully it will look better as she begins to rust.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: gs spoken here on January 31, 2015, 07:44:42 AM
Jonesy, nice work, I see you remade the lever shaft and made or got a new ball. I am in need of a ball for mine it is missing. any thoughts. thanks Bill
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: dsags on January 31, 2015, 07:50:20 AM
Agree with Bill, you are doing a great job and that 'pivot ball' is a thing of beauty. Please share how you made it.

Dan
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Brian on January 31, 2015, 08:10:38 AM
Everyone stay tuned on the pivot ball.  I bought a box of 20 1" steel balls.  I needed one, but had to buy 3 lb worth for the minimum order.  Will be drilling all of them on my lathe and putting them up for sale.  I made the one I needed already and it turned out perfect. 
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: Jonesy on January 31, 2015, 09:51:23 AM
   My buddy had the flat stock CNC'd here locally for the correct rectangular cut and angle. The shaft is a one inch diameter piece of bar stock that was pressed and welded into the flat stock and the ball is just as Brian describes which was milled.

   He made all of the measurements with a micrometer. He is scheduled for cardiac bypass in early Feb but says he has enough stock to make around 10 of them. I know Brian has the ability to make these from scratch also, I don't think there's much he can't fabricate. I'll post here when I have more available.
Title: Re: Dropped my tranny, bellhousing, clutch and flywheel today
Post by: gs spoken here on January 31, 2015, 04:19:27 PM
Brian, no rush, based on the weather it will be a month or two before I get to where I will need one, thanks Bill.